# The skillpoint cap is way too high (New player retention/Quality of life)

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**Created:** [August 24, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-skillpoint-cap-is-way-too-high-new-player-retention-quality-of-life/185392 "2019-08-24T15:09:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-skillpoint-cap-is-way-too-high-new-player-retention-quality-of-life/185392/319 "2019-08-26T11:45:41Z")

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Yeah, Naari misunderstanding/misrepresenting some source is nothing new.

> [@Criminal Standing changes](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-standing-changes/152484/18):
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> Im getting close. I found some vague statements claiming things like The largest 14.1% of male is motivated to play competition, followed by 11.9% of male who plays for destruction. (Quanticfoundry, 2016) A better question is “how can we make eve an option for both types of players?”. The answer to this is by giving specific area’s of the game an assigned purpose by default. You can read a short blog about why pvp systems like eve do not work well here: [https://massivelyop.com/2019/02/07…](https://massivelyop.com/2019/02/07/vague-patch-notes-why-the-social-penalty-for-open-pvp-in-mmos-never-works/)

In that old discussion, he tried to use the [Quantic Foundry survey](https://quanticfoundry.com/2016/12/15/primary-motivations/) to argue that competitiveness and destruction is a low motivation for people to play games. Except, he totally misunderstood the numbers and the survey actually listed those factors as some of the main motivations for young males.

So it doesn’t surprise me, that he is trying to shoehorn any data to try and support his views.

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