# The status of the game… **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 21, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067 "2020-11-21T20:40:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/156 "2020-11-24T13:53:29Z")
> [@Flanidia](#): > > mineral prices matter Is the only accurate thing youve said in weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/157 "2020-11-24T13:53:57Z")
A sad little retreat their friend. As I said, enjoy your day : ) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/158 "2020-11-24T13:54:30Z")
> [@Flanidia](#): > > their \*there Not suprised your grammar is as bad as your grasp of economics. ---
**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/159 "2020-11-24T13:55:36Z")
Not surprised you are retreating to being the grammar police. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/160 "2020-11-24T13:59:57Z")
You give me what I work with. If you think Ive retreated away from “mineral prices up = good for miners and traders” then you misunderstand the situation. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/161 "2020-11-24T14:44:04Z")
What are we talking about again? ---
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/162 "2020-11-24T14:53:34Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > What are we talking about again? Is Ramona the grammar police and has she retreated. I’m going with yes and no respectively. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/163 "2020-11-24T14:55:03Z")
Jonah, thank you for agreeing that solstice’s point is simplistic and wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Obed\_Marshh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obed_marshh/32/459118_2.png) [@Obed\_Marshh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obed_Marshh)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/165 "2020-11-24T15:55:24Z")
> [@Flanidia](#): > > grammar police I like the grammar police. They help keep language from devolving. ---
**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/166 "2020-11-24T15:56:44Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > If you think Ive retreated away from “mineral prices up = good for miners and traders” then you misunderstand the situation. Do miners sell minerals? Why no, they do not. You might want to go back to grammar policing. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/167 "2020-11-24T16:16:33Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > you do realize that PVP needs PVE. Ill explain… Yes. But the amount of farming has **far surpassed** the amount of destruction for the better half of a decade. Ship loss has become trivial. So minerals are being nerfed to bring it back in line. > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > if PVEer , Builder, Miner earns less they will spend less. This isn’t the situation we have. Players have stockpiles upon stockpiles. They are spending the same even though their rewards are halved. In fact they are spending more (destruction has increased slightly). CCP are making players use up their stocks. > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > Its just commonsense thinking. if you got $50.00 extra on your pay check you would spend all or some of that on stuff, on the other hand if you got $50.00 pay cut you would have to spend $50.00 less per paycheck. and economically speaking if you spend more the economy benefits as a whole, if you spend less it suffers as a whole. This assumes you’re living paycheck to pay check. If you earn $100 a month and have saved up $1million. Your spending doesnt change that much if your income is halved. You just dip into your savings first. > [@Flanidia](#): > > People mine ore thus ore prices are what matters from an income perspective. > [@Flanidia](#): > > Do miners sell minerals? Why no, they do not. I too refuse to train reprocessing skills… ---
**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/168 "2020-11-24T16:33:10Z")
How many small corps have access to max facilities? But keep the fanboi thing going…it’s pretty awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/169 "2020-11-24T16:48:12Z")
> [@Flanidia](#): > > How many small corps have access to max facilities? I mean there’s a public one in perimeter… You don’t even need max facilities. You just need a reprocessing rate such that mineral price after reprocessing costs exceeds ore price. Which can be achieved without max skills and without T2 rigged structures. You’ve got structures in hek, botane, alentene, Jufvitte…those are just the ones i use. So wait…have you refused to reprocess your ore unless you get absolute maximum yield? 🤦‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/170 "2020-11-24T16:49:49Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > So wait…have you refused to reprocess your ore unless you get absolute maximum yield? The price of minerals is based on max yield processing…if you get less than that, you fall behind the curve in terms of income versus expense. Enjoy the day fanboi. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/171 "2020-11-24T16:59:23Z")
> [@Flanidia](#): > > The price of minerals is based on max yield processing…if you get less than that, you fall behind the curve in terms of income versus expense. What is even this? I think you may be over complicating things. If A makes more money than B, do A… ---
**Author:** ![Flanidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flanidia/32/264223_2.png) [@Flanidia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flanidia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/172 "2020-11-24T17:09:55Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > If A makes more money than B, do A… And if prices rise faster than doing A, you still fall behind. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/173 "2020-11-24T17:10:32Z")
Prices of what? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067/174 "2020-11-24T17:12:34Z")
Yes, they do. Do you sell ore for some reason? If so, why? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-of-the-game/281067.md?page=6)