# The Status quo issue's solution **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 26, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290 "2018-06-26T10:51:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Nigbala\_Tareem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nigbala_tareem/32/75701_2.png) [@Nigbala\_Tareem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nigbala_Tareem)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/21 "2018-06-27T10:06:40Z")
like others said before - i hope that by voting yes it means I agree with these things existing. Hisec corporation are an abomination and wardecs work to cull their proliferation. Cloaky camping is the only reasonable way to curb the nullbears enthusiasm. Hisec ganking is one of the things that makes this game stand out - it teaches people how to evaluate an action based on risk/reward which is a useful skill to employ in real life too. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/22 "2018-06-27T10:33:14Z")
That’s actually… A great idea ! Hey, let’s vote : let’s ask CCP to add a frigate-sized ship that can fire doomsday weapons (even on sub capitals ships) ! _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/22))_ (Joke intensifies) ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/23 "2018-06-27T10:34:04Z")
Do you want this thread to be closed? _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/23))_ ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/24 "2018-06-27T10:54:34Z")
Where’s the IDGAF option? ---
**Author:** ![Rosov\_Aulmais](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosov_aulmais/32/168511_2.png) [@Rosov\_Aulmais](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosov_Aulmais)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/25 "2018-06-27T11:03:14Z")
Do you think you need an IDGAF option for all those YES/NO polls? _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/25))_ ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/26 "2018-06-28T09:02:14Z")
> [@Mii\_Lady](#): > > - Cloaky Campers > - Hisec ganking > - War Dec system (aka 1 sided harassment licenses). I say no. While some of these could use another look, it would need a huge effort to make them more interesting and there is the danger of getting rid of them altogether. Strong impression here that many people who argue against them don’t want slight changes which could make the game more interesting, but want to abolish these mechanics completely. While I could imagine for each of the 3 to have better mechanics, at least they provide a reason to play as a group. Get rid of them and EVE turns more into soloplayer farmville. The huge amount of work needed to make them better, should probably go into other mechanics instead. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/27 "2018-06-28T14:33:09Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/0/a0d177dbf11ad70909335f32716191c1871b12a4.png) ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/28 "2018-06-28T16:23:52Z")
It has 39 votes now… I’ll balance it out for you again. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/29 "2018-07-06T00:44:37Z")
> [@Mii\_Lady](#): > > Right. > So everyone whos been playing EVE for more than half a day… Knows very little. Let me know when you’ve been playing for more than half a decade. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/30 "2018-07-06T05:04:50Z")
> [@Jenn\_aSide](#): > > It’s funny the OP mentions a famous recent election that had surprising results, because shouldn’t that demonstrate that leaving important issues in the hands of ‘normal people’ is a recipe for disaster? No it really isn’t and more democracy is demonstrably a very good idea. EVE however is not a democracy, it is a product owned by CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Nico\_Boru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_boru/32/64941_2.png) [@Nico\_Boru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Boru)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/31 "2018-07-06T05:22:55Z")
Democracy is the worst form of government. Except all others. Winston Churchill. ---
**Author:** ![Nico\_Boru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_boru/32/64941_2.png) [@Nico\_Boru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Boru)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/32 "2018-07-06T05:26:29Z")
The whole war dec thing is designed to make people band together to fight and defend what they have. Not onesy and twosey mining, industrying, PI’ing all by their lonesome not talking to anybody. Thats minecraft, not Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/33 "2018-07-06T08:24:17Z")
Democracy doesn’t work as intended when the collective doesn’t care about itself as a whole, which is what we have in the game and in reallife in western nations, with the exception of iceland and switzerland. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/34 "2018-07-06T09:48:32Z")
> [@Mii\_Lady](#): > > Right. > So everyone whos been playing EVE for more than half a day knows there are a few status quo issues. CCP refuses to comment or act on. Please use the existing threads. We have plenty of them and we certainly don’t need one that tries to fix or discuss multiple issues at once and in the wrong forum section. Get these basic things right and you’ll have a chance for people to listen, but get them wrong and you’ve already made a fool of yourself and the responses in the thread are a testimony to this. So, please, do it the right way. Look into [Pleayers Features & Ideas](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/technology-research/player-features-ideas). ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/35 "2018-07-06T10:08:19Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > Please use the existing threads. We have plenty of them and we certainly don’t need one that tries to fix or discuss multiple issues at once and in the wrong forum section. Get these basic things right and you’ll have a chance for people to listen, but get them wrong and you’ve already made a fool of yourself and the responses in the thread are a testimony to this. > > So, please, do it the right way. > > Look into [Pleayers Features & Ideas](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/technology-research/player-features-ideas). i mis Doc ▇ ▅ █ ▅ ▇ ▂ ▃ ▁ ▇ ▅ ▃ ▅ ▅ ▄ ▅ ▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ FuryBot™ 0.89 │▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/36 "2018-07-06T10:10:37Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > i mis Doc > ▇ ▅ █ ▅ ▇ ▂ ▃ ▁ ▇ ▅ ▃ ▅ ▅ ▄ ▅ > ▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ FuryBot™ 0.89 │▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ What’s a fury bot? ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/37 "2018-07-06T10:48:01Z")
[Furybot™](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/4542586/#post4542586) Almost as consistent as my afk cloaky quote (all hail paikis) One funny fecker too, don’t think he’s playing ATM though ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/38 "2018-07-06T15:06:46Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Democracy doesn’t work as intended when the collective doesn’t care about itself as a whole, which is what we have in the game and in reallife in western nations, with the exception of iceland and switzerland. Yeah why should they care if it is such apparent that their vote doesn’t make a difference and you can only chose between pest and cholera. How many of those “democracies” where no one gives a ■■■■ are in reality plutocracies? If your democracy doesn’t work then maybe you just don’t have enough of it so people start to care again because they feel responsible. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/40 "2018-07-06T16:50:46Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > > [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](#): > > > > The problem thus clearly doesn’t lie with CCP, it lies with the [mindset](https://www.chrisshepherd.org/on-the-totalitarian-personality/) of the people complaining. > > Right… so in your mind the problem with rape lies in the mindset of the person being raped… It’s not the rapist that’s the problem… naaaahhhh… Enough of this nonsense. When you cannot make an argument, but you have to steep so low as to point to rape then clearly you’re out of your mind. Keep the utterly dumb comments to yourself, please. This is still a game forum. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290/41 "2018-07-06T16:57:18Z")
Nope, not even close to the same thing. How dare you even make such a comparison of a rape victim, who’s experienced real psychological and physical trauma that he or she will carry for the rest of their life, to the various whines about personal problems you have with a video game. How ■■■■■■■ dare you. #firstworldproblems much? You are the epitome of entitled. You are not a victim of anything here. Nothing. Not one thing. You don’t like the game? Fine. Biomass, uninstall, and go play Star Citizen. Maybe a crowdfunding simulator will be more your speed. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-status-quo-issues-solution/85290.md?page=3)