# The summer has passed, but Eve has not returned to 40,000 concurent users **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 22, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-summer-has-passed-but-eve-has-not-returned-to-40-000-concurent-users/141853 "2019-02-22T20:59:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 44
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-summer-has-passed-but-eve-has-not-returned-to-40-000-concurent-users/141853/44 "2019-02-24T18:39:36Z")
They’ve added all sorts of new Fanta tastes to the shelves, and yet those pesky Coca Cola drinkers don’t flock to them and stay subscribbed. What’s going wrong…? See, I even gave feedback about it to CCP Darwin, and he said he was sending it to the relevant team. Dunno if ti’s gonna be used for anything at all, ever, but here’s the thing: > [@Devblog: Preparing For The Future – Retirement Of Captain’s Quarters & Twitch Integration](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/1065): > > This is a bit off-topic for the thread, but I gather from this comment that you either haven’t tried or didn’t like the Abyssal Deadspace sites. What would you like to have seen done differently there? My gripe is not about details, but the concept of the content itself. Abyssal sites, like Burners, like FOBs, like… everything sicne Incarna, are like this: 1 very difficult task with 1 and only 1 solution. Whereas what I, and many mission runners love from missions is that they… CCP can add the wrong PvE for a decade and get a repeat of everything they’ve done since Incarna: minimal usage and no meaningful impact on retention. Maybe they should just have asked the PvErs while they still were a thing. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-summer-has-passed-but-eve-has-not-returned-to-40-000-concurent-users/141853)._