# The truth about Adrian Vexier!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** null-sec, high-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [September 19, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751 "2021-09-19T01:49:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/1 "2021-09-19T01:49:12Z")

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I have been playing eve for well over a decade and in this time I have seen many people doing dodgy things. Mechanics get nerfed and balanced as a result. Two things that never got looked at are ganking and bumping. And recently we have been bothered by a player bumping us. We looked into ths character and we discovered some peculiar things. His name is Adrian Vexier and here is what we found:

First of all his bumping speed. He uses a Machariel and regularly reaches more than 3700 m/s. even with overheat, implants and officer mwd we couldn’t reach that in any simulation and he does that continuously so overhead is out of the question.

 ![432](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/c/6/bc6f23b0a3557f4e9d6f8e6810bc6fd33328a24d.jpeg)

Second there is the ganking and escaping concord. He regularly ganks ships in the ice fields and sometimes concord doesn’t even come.

On top of that there is his above 5.0 security standing with concord. He has 5.1 and his character was created in 2017. That is years after the concord agents were pulled from the game. How did he attain 5.1??? can this have something to do with concord not intervening in his fights?

![876](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/7/0/070554d9d11918b1d28fd9ad5a70bb2bf4d24401.png)

And then are some strange kills on zkillboard. Like this astrahus he killed with only his frigate. The astrahus was fully fitted and had enough fuel for more than a year. Even if the station wasn’t manned how did he do enough damage to pause the repair timer with only one frigate?

> **[Astrahus | JagsCorp | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/88290194/)**
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> (JagsCorp) lost their Astrahus in Attyn (Essence) Total Value: 3,865,389,698.56 ISK

 ![astrahus.PNG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/5/5/c5578c1b85151b5cd2adbd79546222a331b4d93e.jpeg)

Plus this strange occurrence when he killed a ship in highsec then a station in nullsec in literally the same minute then the pod of the other guy in the same system in highsec two minutes later. The highsec and nullsec systems are 41 jumps apart. No way he could do that back and forward in 2 minutes. Another strange thing about this is that for the highsec kills he used a stratios but for the nullsec structure zkillboard couldn’t read his ship is has just a question mark. how did he teleport himself back and forward 82 jumps in 2 minutes and make those 3 kills? Can someone explain this?

 ![Apanake](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/f/b/cfba9e991dc61236af3bdf10385dd031b09566f7.png)

> **[Heron | Selman Vogtron | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/91252944/)**
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> Selman Vogtron (School of Applied Knowledge) lost their Heron in Apanake (Genesis) Total Value: 1,187,100.97 ISK

> **['Marginis' Fortizar | GoonWaffe | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/91252956/)**
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> (GoonWaffe) lost their 'Marginis' Fortizar in K-6K16 (Delve). Final Blow by Anophobia (Wombo United) flying in a Muninn. Total Value: 67,170,630,475.83 ISK

> **[Capsule | Selman Vogtron | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/91252980/)**
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> Selman Vogtron (School of Applied Knowledge) lost their Capsule in Apanake (Genesis) Total Value: 10,000.00 ISK

he also has a lot of kills using a nereus. we know the nereus can fit a lot of tank but recently he killed a gila with t2 damage focused fit and barely took any damage himself and even killed a rook fitted with 5 t2 jammers and he negated all ecm.

> **[Gila | 3lpirata | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/94669202/)**
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> 3lpirata (LOYALS WARRIORS GNOSTICS) lost their Gila in Aydoteaux (Everyshore) Total Value: 337,217,383.33 ISK

> **[Rook | george skyshudder | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/94664369/)**
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> george skyshudder (R1vals) lost their Rook in Tolle (Everyshore) Total Value: 263,686,085.02 ISK

> **[Gnosis | Darius Corvan | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/94648683/)**
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> Darius Corvan (Enigman Inc.) lost their Gnosis in Aydoteaux (Everyshore) Total Value: 108,627,656.71 ISK

What do you think about this? Isn’t it weird? Has anyone else had experiences with Adrian Vexier?

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**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/2 "2021-09-19T01:59:23Z")

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Is this your OP, Adrian?

That guy posts click-bait video links all the time. I figured he is more of a troll who designs these farces with his own alts to garner sensationalist reactions from others.

In fact, the whole OP seems very par for course, coming from Adrian. He would certainly manufacture this whole thing if only for a bit more notoriety. Look him up on YouTube.

Shenanigans? No more than usual.

EDIT: Your post title has a typo. An ‘?’ instead of a ‘!’ would have been more appropriate. The title acts like it has answers, but it is, in fact, a question.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/3 "2021-09-19T02:15:13Z")

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I can confirm that Adrian is a wallhacker noclipping landshark.

Once I saw him no aim headshot someone from across the map.

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/4 "2021-09-19T02:26:25Z")

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are you asking me if i am adrian? no! i am not!  
how could anyone design the kills in game with the standard mechanics? how do you kill an astrahus with a frigate? how do you jump 82 gates in 2 minutes? how do you get 5.1 positive sec standing?

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/5 "2021-09-19T02:27:54Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> wallhacker noclipping landshark

are you joking or are you serious?

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I saw him no aim headshot someone from across the map

how? is that how he did the impossible highsec - nullsec - highsec kills?

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**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/6 "2021-09-19T02:28:34Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> are you asking me if i am adrian? no! i am not!

Source?

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> how do you kill an astrahus with a frigate?

Easy if it’s his.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> how do you jump 82 gates in 2 minutes?

That scenario you mentioned is easy to explain. He did damage to the entity, so he got put on the kill. He didn’t have to be present upon its death to receive credit for it.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> how do you get 5.1 positive sec standing?

That, I’d like to know.

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/7 "2021-09-19T02:33:19Z")

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> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> Source?

wtf do you want me to do?

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> Easy if it’s his.

that astra had fuel for a year in its fuel bay so it wasnt abandoned. also even if it was his he still has to do 2000 dps to stop the repair timer. even if he had an alt in he couldnt stop the repair timer that is automatic if there is not enough dps. so his frigate did 2000 dps. he used a daredevil. show us any daredevil fit that does 2000!

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> That scenario you mentioned is easy to explain. He did damage to the entity, so he got put on the kill. He didn’t have to be present upon its death to receive credit for it.

he did his first kill in highsec then the second in nullsec then the third back in highsec. round trip 82 jumps. he did it in 2 minutes. how???

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> That, I’d like to know.

yeah… dont we all?

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**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/8 "2021-09-19T02:39:03Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> wtf do you want me to do?

With such a fresh account age (joined two hours ago), there is nothing you can do. You have no posting history to compare against. Even then, I suspend disbelief regarding alts only when I am reasonably sure no shenanigans are taking place. This just reeks of Adrian’s modus operandi.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> that astra had fuel for a year in its fuel bay so it wasnt abandoned

I don’t see an Upwell Structure core in that killmail. No way to tell when it was anchored, so it could have been placed after requirements for Upwell Cores in Citadels was put into place. Could have been abandoned with a full tank, sans core.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> he did his first kill in highsec then the second in nullsec

I told you, that’s not what happened. He got a kill, then the structure which he did damage to was destroyed, then he got another kill.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> yeah… dont we all?

You and I sure do, that much is all I know.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/9 "2021-09-19T02:41:55Z")

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> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> This just reeks of Adrian’s modus operandi.

I am not Adrian. This is ridiculous. You are probably Adrian!!!

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**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/10 "2021-09-19T02:44:59Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I am not Adrian.

The plot thickens.

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/11 "2021-09-19T02:56:52Z")

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> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> With such a fresh account age (joined two hours ago), there is nothing you can do. You have no posting history to compare against. Even then, I suspend disbelief regarding alts only when I am reasonably sure no shenanigans are taking place. This just reeks of Adrian’s modus operandi.

check my character in game. this is an alt older than two years. what? did you expect me to post with my main so adrian would bump me 24/7? by the way you talk you are adrian!

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> I don’t see an Upwell Structure core in that killmail. No way to tell when it was anchored, so it could have been placed after requirements for Upwell Cores in Citadels was put into place. Could have been abandoned with a full tank, sans core.

you are obviously new and dont know about game mechanics. once you anchor a structure, after 24 hours it is fully anchored but offline. you need to core it to bring it online and only then you can fit modules to it. so that astra was deployed before the core changes and fully fueled. you can still see such structures uncored and fueled and they work fine and still need damage cap to stop the repair timer.

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> I told you, that’s not what happened. He got a kill, then the structure which he did damage to was destroyed, then he got another kill.

and how did he travel 82 jumps in 2 minutes? and why is there a question mark instead of a ship on his nullsec kill? was he piloting a secret ship?

and what about his 3700 m/s machariel.  
this is what we can simulate with an overheated Cormack 500MN and full faction overdrives and nanofibers plus full velocity rigs - 3177 m/s.

 ![Machariel](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/e/9/9e913584f915ac4d12a433e003ad67c8d1b7a124.png)

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/12 "2021-09-19T03:04:00Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> how did he travel 82 jumps in 2 minutes

I’m pretty sure his ship has a warp drive.

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**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/13 "2021-09-19T03:04:36Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> did you expect me to post with my main so adrian would bump me 24/7?

I did not expect to see what I saw in your posting history, but here we are. Sensationalist replies and then a sensationalist thread… Hm…

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> you are obviously new and dont know about game mechanics

I am new, but I also know some mechanics. Required for new structures: October 2020. Killmail: November 2020. It still could have had its core removed, for whatever reason, making it vulnerable. Also still cannot prove if it was anchored/onlined before or after changes.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> and how did he travel 82 jumps in 2 minutes?

He did not. You are missing what I am saying. I can only repeat myself at this point. He did not have to be present to get put on the killmail on its death.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> and what about his 3700 m/s machariel.

He gets a buddy alt to push him faster. C’mon. It’s just occam’s razor to cut through these questions. Just say it: he’s a dirty, dirty hax0r.

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/14 "2021-09-19T03:05:12Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I’m pretty sure his ship has a warp drive.

stop trolling. this is a serious post. dont hijack it!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/15 "2021-09-19T03:10:34Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> this is a serious post.

That it is not.

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/16 "2021-09-19T03:12:49Z")

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> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> here we are. Sensationalist replies and then a sensationalist thread… Hm…

i didnt ask for sensationalist replies. i asked for real answers. but nice to see you were the first to answer… Adrian!

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> It still could have had its core removed

go read some more before you come back and embarrass yourself even more. you can’t remove cores from structures! you can only unanchor structures and then scoop the core separately like the modules.

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> Also still cannot prove if it was anchored/onlined before or after changes.

it was fully fitted and it had fuel in its fuel bay. so it was online and not abandoned. you have all the info on zkillboard. you sound like Adrian trying to defend yourself!

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> He did not have to be present to get put on the killmail on its death.

a structure goes down in 15 to 20 minutes. with the amount of pilots and dps on that one it probably died in 15 minutes. so asuming he was the first to shoot it and then immediately burned to Apamake to kill that Heron, it means that he made the 41 jumps trip in 15 minutes. IMPOSSIBLE!

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> He gets a buddy alt to push him faster.

what? he bumps himself for speed? listen man! we see him bumping at these speeds by himself all the time! come to Tolle and Aydoteaux and see for yourself!

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> he’s a dirty, dirty hax0r.

yes! we suspect that!

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**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/17 "2021-09-19T03:24:09Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> i didnt ask for sensationalist replies

You did in every other post on this character. Safe to assume this thread was also sensationalist.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> you can’t remove cores from structures! you can only unanchor structures and then scoop the core separately like the modules.

This, I did not realize. Figured it could be taken offline and the core removed before the update went into full effect, but have no experience to verify how the updates affected structure mechanics during the different phases.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> it was fully fitted and it had fuel in its fuel bay. so it was online and not abandoned.

So that would be proof that it was anchored before the update, since it appeared online without a core, and since modules could not be equipped without being online.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> a structure goes down in 15 to 20 minutes

All structures follow this rule explicitly? I’m just trying to sift through the vast generalizations.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> we see him bumping at these speeds by himself all the time! come to Tolle and Aydoteaux and see for yourself!

I’ll have to take your word for it, I guess.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> yes! we suspect that!

Prove it!

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/18 "2021-09-19T03:31:24Z")

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> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> You did in every other post on this character. Safe to assume this thread was also sensationalist.

this is my forst post on this character. but nice try Adrian!

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> So that would be proof that it was anchored before the update, since it appeared online without a core, and since modules could not be equipped without being online.

exactly!

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> I’ll have to take your word for it, I guess.

not a clever reply.

> [@Ricky\_Tock](#):
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> Prove it!

read my initial post. you have all the proof there!

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**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/19 "2021-09-19T03:38:12Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> he did his first kill in highsec then the second in nullsec then the third back in highsec. round trip 82 jumps. he did it in 2 minutes. how???

Couldn’t he just use a jump clone? Just has to have a ship in both systems.

Errr… nevermind. You mentioned three systems here, not 2.

Maybe he has an alt with the same name, except an extra space at the end?

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/21 "2021-09-19T03:43:26Z")

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> [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](#):
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> Maybe he has an alt with the same name, except an extra space at the end?

Those kills are on the same zkillboard page. see the screenshot. God! I swear some of you people are just clueless!

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