# The truth about Adrian Vexier!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** null-sec, pvp, high-sec\
**Created:** [September 19, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751 "2021-09-19T01:49:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 8

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**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/142 "2021-09-20T12:02:22Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> you want pics? well dont look now, but Adrian was active today as well. Look at those recent kills and tell me that’s not a ganker!

thats not a ganker !!! 🙂 , show us the concord.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/143 "2021-09-20T12:03:42Z")

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Well, here, you but know as well as I do that doesnt prove anything

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/9/7/197f2bbdfc237e5ebc3e7f237387824025ce9703.png)

Id call that a statistical anomoly.

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**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/144 "2021-09-20T12:04:33Z")

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thats his alt not adrian vexier

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/145 "2021-09-20T12:05:28Z")

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My goodness you are right

So yeah, there’s no evidence of Dracvlad-defined ganking here, no evidence of normal defined ganking and no evidence of WoW style ganking.

Case closed.

Next.

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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/146 "2021-09-20T12:34:50Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> back in the day when? Before 2010? his toon was created in 2017.

As I said, the event that allowed people to get a 5.1 sec status happened more recently. Don’t recall exactly when it was, but I would consider it safe to assume that it happened after he made his character.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> look at his killboard and tell me all those miners are aggressing him!

Anyway, the mystery of him evading concord is solved. You’re assuming that he must be ganking when all evidence suggests otherwise (i.e. it is mathematically impossible for him to kill what he’s been killing with his nereus before concord arrives, there is no concord response, his sec status is 5.1). You’ve decided that he must be ganking based on one conclusion, and that conclusion is flawed. You have to remember, for every player that learns to avoid suspect baiting, there’s 2 noobs being pooped into space in a rookie ship.

In other words, there’s a sucker born every minute.  
 ![No P2W](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/e/c9e5bbcb978427c1d2c78ed0bf7e727425ef954f.png)

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**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/147 "2021-09-20T13:52:16Z")

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i have a char who"s been 5.1 for years and recently began getting sec status increases again . the cap may have been lifted , or the patch that capped it’s not compatible with the latest version .

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/148 "2021-09-20T13:54:16Z")

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The thread delivered.  
Twice.

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/149 "2021-09-20T14:13:05Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> I cant unless you tell me which of the many definitions of Ganker Im supposed to attribute to him. And dont get snarky about that, ask around if you dont believe theres at least three.

so you nee a definition? Ok here! several examples of him attacking unarmed ships in highsec. Look at the killmails. these are mining exhumers with no combat drones, no combat modules on the high slots or the mid slots. practically no way to agress. yet he still killed them in highsec.  
the first skiff and the enurance even have two warp fore stabilizers fitted - that is 4 warp core escape power in case you didnt know and he still managed to hold them down and kill them!

 ![1-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/c/9/0c9662c4cfaffb87887b55dc0fbe68911d2416e4.png)  
 ![1-2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/e/4/4e4c36537041af399481e1493356b0c576e36f0b.png)  
 ![2-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/6/2/0629731b6eec5d556cb328840b547d8f01a80ba6.png)  
 ![2-2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/4/3/643bc20720f10c43ad04b22e66b2deeea5e0fba3.png)

> **[Endurance | Dethus Fremme | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/75827660/)**
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> Dethus Fremme (State War Academy) lost their Endurance in Ardallabier (Everyshore) Total Value: 46,256,769.95 ISK

> **[Skiff | Aura Axiom | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/77155867/)**
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> Aura Axiom (Sokudo Laboratories) lost their Skiff in Aydoteaux (Everyshore) Total Value: 207,775,697.19 ISK

> **[Mackinaw | Kira Firn | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78608777/)**
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> Kira Firn (Brutor Tribe) lost their Mackinaw in Tarta (Genesis). Final Blow by Adrian Vexier (Antiqua Vero) flying in a Nereus. Total Value: 241,108,124.81 ISK

> **[Skiff | Anton Chervinskij | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78356831/)**
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> Anton Chervinskij (Eye of Inferno) lost their Skiff in Aydoteaux (Everyshore) Total Value: 261,020,573.95 ISK

> **[Skiff | Kolyan 66ru | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/92571481/)**
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> Kolyan 66ru (Garoun Investment Bank) lost their Skiff in Tolle (Everyshore) Total Value: 263,831,254.85 ISK

> **[Hulk | Darius Corvan | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/94648430/)**
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> Darius Corvan (Enigman Inc.) lost their Hulk in Aydoteaux (Everyshore) Total Value: 307,009,666.86 ISK

> **[Orca | 0beron Baird | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78592705/)**
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> 0beron Baird (0beron Baird Corporation) lost their Orca in Tarta (Genesis) Total Value: 925,500,248.78 ISK

> **[Orca | Maximus Tymon | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78608013/)**
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> Maximus Tymon (Aliastra) lost their Orca in Tarta (Genesis) Total Value: 767,886,460.97 ISK

He even went overboard and killed two unarmed orcas that way! he even killed one orca with that cursed Nereus! and look at that Orca fit! full shield and hull tank. HOW CAN A NEREUS DO SO MUCH DPS??? and what is strange is that he killed them both in the same day. maybe he was on a rampage and realized he made a mistake being that obvious. and those were not war targets, wars show on killboard. and there are a lot more such examples, I didn’t want to make this post too long. Now you tell me how he is able to attack and kill so many ships that can’t even aggress him back in high sec and not get concorded and also not lose sec standing! what’s that? you can’t? I REST MY CASE!!!

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/150 "2021-09-20T14:14:13Z")

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my chars are capped at 5.0. we tried doing missions and running rat sites. what do you do to increase above 5.0?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/151 "2021-09-20T14:16:50Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> so you nee a definition?

No, I need to know which one you are using.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> several examples of him attacking unarmed ships in highsec. Look at the killmails. these are mining exhumers with no combat drones, no combat modules on the high slots or the mid slots. practically no way to agress. yet he still killed them in highsec.  
> the first skiff and the enurance even have two warp fore stabilizers fitted - that is 4 warp core escape power in case you didnt know and he still managed to hold them down and kill them!

Thats not the definition of a gank.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> not get concorded and also not lose sec standing

is proof that in at least two definitions, its not a gank.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> aggress him back

This isnt even a thing.

I suck at EvE but your grasp of the mechnaics makes me look like I wrote the thing.

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**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/152 "2021-09-20T14:18:31Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> my chars are capped at 5.0. we tried doing missions and running rat sites. what do you do to increase above 5.0?

It’s possible to raise about 5.0 if you prior sec status is something like 4.9 and you complete a L4 mission or something like that that has a 0.2 increase. Once above it stays at that level e.g. 5.1 until you do something bad that lowers it and it caps back down to 5.0 or below.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/153 "2021-09-20T14:19:23Z")

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I have an alt that this exact thing happened to.

He was at 5.1 and he accidently shot a wreck.

I was so angry at myself lol.

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/154 "2021-09-20T14:20:41Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> > [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> > aggress him back
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> This isnt even a thing.
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> I suck at EvE

you must really suck at eve. let me explain to you: if there is no war and the victim literally has NO ATTACKING MODULES OR COMBAT DRONES, then there is no way the victim can aggress Adrian. so Adrian is the aggressor. you can try to tell me he dueled everyone, but we both know that is just stupid. he simply attacks ships in high sec and concord just doesn’t come. like in null sec.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/155 "2021-09-20T14:21:24Z")

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> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> if there is no war and the victim literally has NO ATTACKING MODULES OR COMBAT DRONES, then there is no way the victim can aggress Adrian

You really dont know the mechanics and I suggest you just stop there.

> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#):
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> he simply attacks ships in high sec and concord just doesn’t come

If you believe this, report it. IF he’s found some way to cheat, CCP will see it and ban him.

But there’s nothing a kangaroo court here can do even if we saw something wierd, which we dont.

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/156 "2021-09-20T14:21:59Z")

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ok, you explain to me how he does it then!

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/157 "2021-09-20T14:23:27Z")

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Why would I explain to you something that could help someone kill you legally?

Why do you think anyone here wants to help you?

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/158 "2021-09-20T14:25:44Z")

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i hoped we would get real help but i guess we were wrong. it seems all you lot want is to troll and revel in other people’s bad luck. pathetic really!  
and you won’t explain it because you CAN’T EXPLAIN IT! that much is obvious.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/159 "2021-09-20T14:27:17Z")

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You are the one telling us about your (Is it even your?) misfortunes, the only one who has made a mockery of your actions is yourself.

Have you reported this alleged cheating or not?

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**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/160 "2021-09-20T14:28:01Z")

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YES! 🤬

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**Author:** ![Obed\_Marshh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obed_marshh/32/459118_2.png) [@Obed\_Marshh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obed_Marshh)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-truth-about-adrian-vexier/328751/161 "2021-09-20T14:29:40Z")

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What happened after you reported it? Any communication from CCP?

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