# The usefulness of friendly discussion on these forums **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 10, 2020, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454 "2020-04-10T08:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/23 "2020-04-10T11:50:29Z")
> [@Prospektor\_Schipplock](#): > > It is simply the problem that nobody is able to express his opinion or what he wants to express in such a way that the opposite person gets it 100%. That’s not a communication weakness, it’s an intellectual weakness. If everyone took everyone else literally, then everyone would use words as they’re meant to be used instead of making up their own definitions and meanings. Communication problems are an intellectual problem. People simply don’t learn how to do it right and everyone just assumes he’s doing it right because 99% of the time it just works. > [@Prospektor\_Schipplock](#): > > So how would you decide in this case how it is meant ? That’s what context is for. Funny you bring up German, considering that the Germans are known as the ones who have a word for pretty much everything. I would have used English as a much better example. For additional context: I’m Austrian. ---
**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/24 "2020-04-10T11:51:32Z")
Great point. I spend half my life (outside here, where I’ve literally just plucked up the courage to post) trying to resist the constant annoyance of trolls…somehow it’s that feeling that, by letting them spout awful stuff without challenge, you’re consenting by your own silence. Like you, I always recommend not to feed the trolls but, jeez, it’s hard sometimes, especially when they’re playing the same, obsessive, brilliant game as you. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/25 "2020-04-10T11:55:39Z")
> [@Sevlec\_Saaad](#): > > resist the constant annoyance of trolls But who’s a troll? Is it the one who’s wrong, or is it the one who insists you’re wrong? When both sides call each other troll, then it’s meaningless to call out trolls, because the end result will always be two echo chambers. One filled with idiots and the other. There’s plenty of people who consider me a troll. The jokes on them, because I’m far more articulate than any of them. The people who call others trolls the most are most often those who are wrong and any doubt can be removed simply by reading the forums! Many just call troll simply because someone disagrees with them, while they themselves actually lack the ability to understand that _telling you you’re wrong is not a sign of aggression_. For them it’s personal. Irrational beings can not take part in intellectual discussions! ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/26 "2020-04-10T11:56:00Z")
> [@Sevlec\_Saaad](#): > > Like you, I always recommend not to feed the trolls but, jeez, it’s hard sometimes, especially when they’re playing the same, obsessive, brilliant game as you. Is that a compliment? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/27 "2020-04-10T12:00:14Z")
…surely SP, you must agree that semantics plays a part, beyond intellectual weakness. Your command of English, as an Austrian, is truly commendable but, as a Londoner, I bet I could pretty much confuse you in ten seconds if I were to use local dialectic idiosyncrasies. I like your point but I think the differences are cultural rather than intellectual…and, btw, I would have zero chance of expressing anything like that in your native language…which is a testament to your great command of English and my rather poor command of German…(better at French mind you). ---
**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/28 "2020-04-10T12:00:59Z")
Totally!!! ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/29 "2020-04-10T12:01:45Z")
I’m also an old timer…you will find a thread by me that lists about 15 pages of good features from the old days CCP has pretty much ignored. ---
**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/30 "2020-04-10T12:03:23Z")
In my opinion, a Troll is someone who is just always contrarian. They usually offer a very few words, all of them designed to solicit a response, whilst contributing nothing. You are the antithesis of a Trollk! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/31 "2020-04-10T12:04:07Z")
> [@Sevlec\_Saaad](#): > > …surely SP, you must agree that semantics plays a part, beyond intellectual weakness. Your command of English, as an Austrian, is truly commendable but, as a Londoner, I bet I could pretty much confuse you in ten seconds if I were to use local dialectic idiosyncrasies. Thank you! I think my english is rather bad, specifically my grammar. I’ve watched tons of english cartoons when I was a kid and it helped me tremendously! Of course you’d confuse me if you used some dialect. That’s why we have “common ground”, like “Hochdeutsch”. > [@Sevlec\_Saaad](#): > > (better at French mind you). I only speak Englisch and German. Even my Austrian is lacking. I can’t speak like Arnold Schwarzenegger, not even in english. > [@Sevlec\_Saaad](#): > > Totally!!! That makes you suspicious as ■■■■, mate, but thank you nonetheless! I truly appreciate it. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/32 "2020-04-10T12:06:55Z")
No, honestly, I’m sure we’ll blow each other up sometime in New Eden but, out here, real world, I am who I am…and the worst thing about Eve Online is that you still might not believe me… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/33 "2020-04-10T12:07:41Z")
I don’t dis-believe you. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/34 "2020-04-10T12:09:09Z")
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/35 "2020-04-10T12:13:45Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Thank you! I think my english is rather bad, specifically my grammar. Better than my German and you know it 😛 > I’ve watched tons of english cartoons when I was a kid and it helped me tremendously! BFBS and AFN? > Of course you’d confuse me if you used some dialect TBF you do quite well with that, you’ve picked up colloquialisms and localised dialect from at the very least Australia, the UK and the US. It was wazzock the other day ffs. Today’s word is Grockle, just to dis the morons who think driving to the coast for Easter is a good idea 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/36 "2020-04-10T12:15:53Z")
btw…judging by zkillboard, I have a whole lot more to worry about than you do. 😃😱 ---
**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/37 "2020-04-10T12:17:29Z")
wazzock? Now that’s true Aussie! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/38 "2020-04-10T12:18:27Z")
Strangely not, we are reliably informed, by an Aussie, that it hasn’t made its way there; it’s from Lancashire. Grockle is from my neck of the woods down in cider country. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/39 "2020-04-10T12:18:41Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > BFBS and AFN? I don’t know. DJ Cat and literally _all_ the famous 80s cartoons and a huge part of everything [Shuki Levy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuki_Levy) composed for! > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > you’ve picked up colloquialisms and localised dialect from at the very least Australia, the UK and the US. > It was wazzock the other day ffs. > Today’s word is Grockle, just to dis the rest of the UK for being tourists 😃 Communication (verbal, non-verbal and textual, but never touched sign-language) is one of my life-long hobbies. Yet I only speak two languages, because just spending my life learning languages doesn’t yield that much. Dialects are great, though! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/0/f04a0f78f1151c543aa9be1d1c9ab8659046643c.png) 😃 Okay. Enough off-topic now. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/40 "2020-04-10T12:20:31Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > I don’t know I only ask because they were the English speaking TV and radio networks provided for the UK and US troops in Germany, so they would have had a lot of non local content on them. The definition of grockle is slightly off btw, it’s used in Dorset and Somerset too; a tourist is also called an emmet in Cornwall, which is something to do with ants. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/41 "2020-04-10T12:22:24Z")
It’s funny, but I don’t remember a single channel, or how I got to see the cartoons on them. We didn’t have any fancy TV subscription or something and it was in the 80s. Hm. Shuky Levi, btw. Great musician. Made tons of amazing work. Truly a master of hook lines. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454/42 "2020-04-10T12:30:36Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > it was in the 80s 80’s.. Paderborn, Munster, Rheindahlen and Gutersloh. Also summer holidays in Bavaria, Austria and Switzerland. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-usefulness-of-friendly-discussion-on-these-forums/231454.md?page=3)