# The worst systems the Triglavian’s can make liminal… or how the Triglavians can really ruin some people’s days! **URL:** \ **Category:** EVE Lore Discussion\ **Created:** [August 9, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456 "2020-08-09T15:35:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/21 "2020-08-10T20:25:28Z")
what is possibility Poinen go down later on ? ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/22 "2020-08-10T20:27:50Z")
i welcome to EvE over decade ago… Adaptation has nothing to do with this case… he had been pass thorugh all the releases … You cant apply the same cliche sentences to this situation … ---
**Author:** ![Ilm\_Gaterau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilm_gaterau/32/443542_2.png) [@Ilm\_Gaterau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilm_Gaterau)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/23 "2020-08-10T20:28:19Z")
So out of a potential 277 stars they only got 12? These Trigs are just loosers 😛 @Neugeniko On that point you made, you don’t happen to know what stops Blue or yellow G5 system being chosen, because I have been curious for a while? I figured possibly interference with COSMOS, and Epic Arcs and rookie systems… but then Jark was a liminal target which would have made traveling to Tanoo for the Sisters Epic Arc rather hard @bluelysian In theory… there about 250 or so other systems that could be taken instead or something. Don’t think you guys would be unlucky twice? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Neugeniko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neugeniko/32/382909_2.png) [@Neugeniko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neugeniko)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/24 "2020-08-10T21:19:41Z")
You should join us. And help out with theory crafting and meta, give us kybernauts more context for the targets with your knowledge and do your part to carve up the map to your whim. Only then will the secrets of Liminality be revealed 😛 But seriously you should mark the safe systems, your just scaring people with this list, thats our job…maybe your one of us already? ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/25 "2020-08-11T08:10:21Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > 🙂 you know one second i shamed and turn into tomato after i read what you wrote :)) but no my friend … check this : I meant in the specific post I was quoting where you had quoted him saying “Otelen” and you replied talking about “Otela.” It appeared you had mistaken one system for the other, and since no one else (including the person you were talking with, who happens to be the OP) had talked about that, I figured I’d mention it in case you had been confused. If you weren’t confused, then nevermind, carry on. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/26 "2020-08-11T08:11:57Z")
> [@Ilm\_Gaterau](#): > > @Sylvia_Kildare > I’m afraid I did mean Otela I was referring to your post where you only mentioned Otelen, not Otela (ofc your OP has Otela) and said: > [@Ilm\_Gaterau](#): > > Otelen is an Orange which so far does not seem to be able to go liminal. Of course the event could always change in the future to include orange stars or could become a trig minor victory But I may have assumed incorrectly that bluelysian was confused between the two systems based on their reply to you, in which case fair 'nuff. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/27 "2020-08-11T11:18:12Z")
Njaira is a great system for trigs ---
**Author:** ![Buhhdust\_Princess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buhhdust_princess/32/281435_2.png) [@Buhhdust\_Princess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buhhdust_Princess)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/28 "2020-08-11T11:27:29Z")
Thanks bud, I’ve been playing since Beta. Nice flex tho. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/29 "2020-08-11T12:20:01Z")
;)) im fricking tired really these days :)) Such a confusion but hey thanks for heads up… you have a damn good attention lvl you know that ??? ---
**Author:** ![Ilm\_Gaterau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilm_gaterau/32/443542_2.png) [@Ilm\_Gaterau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilm_Gaterau)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/30 "2020-08-11T18:52:25Z")
I’l never join you!.. but I’l happy share theories 😃 Nah, scaring people is too fun! Besides it may spurn them into action! In theory all systems on this list are possible targets going just on star type but a lot of the more devastating ones are probably too important in the universe/ lore to just get taken by an average invasion, or contain Epic Arc locations so a lot of them are probably safe… probably 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/31 "2020-08-14T05:05:43Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > ;)) im fricking tired really these days :)) Such a confusion but hey thanks for heads up… you have a damn good attention lvl you know that ??? haha, thanks… I try? ;D I was just reading through this thread, and noticed all the Otela this and Otelen that and thinking about how that’s not even the only system pair that’s very confusing in this game (Martha vs Marthia comes to mind, both in Amarr HS quite near each other, too!), among others, esp those short names like 3, 4 letters… So yeah, just thought I saw a confusion and tried to clear it up, now I feel like it was silly to have done, but glad it amused us, at least. ;D ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/32 "2020-08-18T11:07:01Z")
And now niarja ---
**Author:** ![Niriam\_DoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/niriam_dot/32/283318_2.png) [@Niriam\_DoT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Niriam_DoT)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/33 "2020-08-18T16:46:25Z")
I’d say, Yulai should be next ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/34 "2020-08-18T16:57:17Z")
Lots of people calling for Jita next. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ilm\_Gaterau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilm_gaterau/32/443542_2.png) [@Ilm\_Gaterau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilm_Gaterau)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/35 "2020-08-18T17:53:04Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/e/ae4d55a0b42ae03836630a04a8821a6e80e9542b.jpeg) Thanks, list been updated to include Niarja’s fall. Doesnt it look like a Death Star now 😛 Still lots of big systems out there. Not sure if the event will let people take a crack at Famous places like Jita, or lore heavy locations like the Minmatar and Gallente parliaments or Amarr Family’s capital worlds; but of note there is still, [**Ahynada**](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/The_Citadel/Ahynada), [**Mehatoor**](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Devoid/Mehatoor) [**Mesybier**](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Essence/Mesybier), [**Carirgnottin**](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Everyshore/Carirgnottin), [**Kihtaled**](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Khanid/Kihtaled), [**Vullat**](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Heimatar/Vullat), **[Elgoi](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Metropolis/Elgoi)**, **[Arlulf](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Metropolis/Arlulf)** and **[Faurulle](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Solitude/Faurulle)** Not to forget [**Geztic**](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Khanid/Geztic) where that strange immortal Caldari Shuttle circles and seemingly interacts with the systems star. Some of us are curious to see what happens to the shuttle if things kick off. ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_Ph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_ph/32/468923_2.png) [@Alex\_Ph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Ph)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/36 "2020-08-18T18:27:09Z")
> [@Neugeniko](#): > > PS - Jita is liminaly capable but might not be picked for invasion even thou it technically has little unique programmed content, its just too important? I mean, with the taxes the Caldari extract from Jita 4-4, the Navy wouldn’t even be afraid to use Titan en mass. Maybe even their Iapetans. At least from a logical point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Ilm\_Gaterau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilm_gaterau/32/443542_2.png) [@Ilm\_Gaterau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilm_Gaterau)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/37 "2020-08-18T20:42:55Z")
Since Niarja has fallen, I had to go change this list again! Seems certain systems have became more important now. **[Mehatoor](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Devoid/Mehatoor)** and **[Ohide](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Devoid/Ohide)** run along the now only remaining highsec route between the Amarr Empires and the rest of the Cluster. That fact that save Edencom saved Jark in Derelik is extremely fortunate Otherwise the most painless route to Amarr is though **[Shera](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Genesis/Shera)** in Genesis as you only have to pass though 1 low sec system, **[Vecamia](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Genesis/Vecamia)**. However Shera is a G5 star so could go liminal… ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/38 "2020-08-18T21:11:28Z")
Don’t forget that there is still one system, in my triangle opinion, that need to take care of. Osmon system. A blue star system with almost 3 ice belt evry time ( sometimes even more ) that have, at any time, 100 people and dozen of miners ( Mining Barge-Exhumer-Orca ) It is also the only caldari system with a level 4 Agent SoE Last, but no less important, it is a fast route for geminate region. ---
**Author:** ![Ilm\_Gaterau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilm_gaterau/32/443542_2.png) [@Ilm\_Gaterau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilm_Gaterau)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/39 "2020-08-18T21:14:38Z")
Good point! Didnt know why that system was important but the Trigs invaded it 3 times in chapter 1! Ok shall added it. Also added raised the stats of **[Bagodan](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Domain/Bagodan)** its loss would slow down trade even more 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456/40 "2020-08-19T04:25:44Z")
> [@Ilm\_Gaterau](#): > > **Jark** would have been a terrible system to lose, a full 27 points of bad. If that had gone the high sec road connecting Heimatar from the Mandate and the rest of the Empire would have been lost. If Sasta, next door to Jark, had fallen to the Trigs, it would have made the SOE Epic Arc all but impossible to complete. Especially for new players. You’d have to detour through low sec to get to Tanoo, and then again - 21 jumps - to get to Lashesih. And then 21 jumps to finish that mission back in Tanoo. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-worst-systems-the-triglavian-s-can-make-liminal-or-how-the-triglavians-can-really-ruin-some-people-s-days/259456.md?page=3)