# The "You will be terminated" message is scary to new players **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [January 19, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680 "2024-01-19T14:55:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/41 "2024-01-20T22:06:40Z")
> [@Vartan\_Sarkisian](#): > > our species is doomed [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/0/a/30a4dec94c2e7b1419f4d929e0acd6cd3229cf95.jpeg "Simon Phoenix Speech (Demolition Man, 1993)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGa8VWszuWo) By the way there is always someone who will benefit from other people’s weakness, as such the above is clearly Aiko’s speech. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ooo\_so\_flashy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ooo_so_flashy/32/408039_2.png) [@ooo\_so\_flashy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ooo_so_flashy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/42 "2024-01-21T01:23:06Z")
Stop talking, Githany. It doesn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doctor_nijushiho/32/385189_2.png) [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doctor_Nijushiho)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/43 "2024-01-21T03:51:48Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > But it really isnt. Yes it warns you, the criminal, but for those not paying attention to local its an intel tooltip that says “hey a bad dude is here” and you can either watch for them, or hunt them. So no its not irrelevant to most Oh, please. People blinking in local is plenty for every other purpose and is sufficient for this use case as well. You no more need or rely on that message than you need the sun to sing a song when it rises. You’re just displaying oppositional defiance to someone who suggested a change. ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/44 "2024-01-21T04:17:11Z")
The EVE I grew up with? Most of you youngins wouldn’t last a day. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/45 "2024-01-21T04:26:04Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Probably best not to listen to griefers , gankers and criminal types . I dunno, they seem to be playing the game rather well… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/46 "2024-01-21T04:29:21Z")
This is closer to my EvE experience: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/e/0/2e096c9c8742fea845ada29c299e7b436fe77326.jpeg "Rita Making Money / IDIOCRACY") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-QIOOuaTk) ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/47 "2024-01-21T05:04:55Z")
I did say for those not paying attention to local. Damn learn to read ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/48 "2024-01-22T05:59:18Z")
It spice up eve play for sure. I grew to find the dark humor of when pos’ would go skynet on eve patch days in the old days. You can trust your own pos. Or can you?!. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_doshu/32/369845_2.png) [@Erik\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/49 "2024-01-22T07:33:45Z")
DuDumDu DuDum … DuDumDu DuDum … DuDumDu DuDum … … Terminated . ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/50 "2024-01-22T08:20:13Z")
You can’t even trust your own alts. 😉 👀 ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/51 "2024-01-22T09:28:56Z")
I will not lie. I have played eve 3 sheets to the win to come in next day going where the hell did over a billion go from main bank alt corp? see logs…okay why the hell this alt pull so much damn money. Okay, lets go see what stupid crap they bought this time lol. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/52 "2024-01-22T09:31:14Z")
> [@The evil of Multiboxing](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/246): > > My alts always steal from my wallet. pensive 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/53 "2024-01-22T11:53:54Z")
> [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > I am disappointed to see this forum’s tendency to quickly react to any suggestion that something could work better by defending the status quo as if they new person’s idea scares and threatens them. There is nothing to be gained by defending a message box that is irrelevant to most. I tend to agree with Mr Epeen ( now there’s a rarity ) that it is generally much ado about nothing. > [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > The fans of a dying game they love and wish to continue playing should not be shouting down feedback from newcomers. The game is dying for a reason. I feel inclined to respond with John Cleese’s famous ’ Do I detect the smell of burning martyr ?’ The trouble with the ‘noobs will get freaked out and leave’ nonsense is that every one of us here has been a noob, had these messages, and not left. Heck…I’ve gotten past every single one of the things that ‘make noobs leave’ and am still in the game. This would suggest that if one can escape from hiding under Mommy’s apron one can thrive in Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/54 "2024-01-22T12:22:17Z")
Notifications in general are a hack. For example Local is used by NPC and missions agents and what not. Messages such as the one OP mentioned are shown in a pop up box in the center of the screen and the same popup box also shows when you get warp scrambled. So of course it leads to confusion. Then theres the bottom right notification area most of which are just links to in-game mail which is the 4th notification system. To make matters worse the notification sound for daily downtime is the same as when your ship blows up. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/55 "2024-01-22T12:25:51Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > same as when your ship blows up 😈 🍿 :explodyparrot: ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doctor_nijushiho/32/385189_2.png) [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doctor_Nijushiho)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/56 "2024-01-22T17:50:25Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > The trouble with the ‘noobs will get freaked out and leave’ nonsense is that every one of us here has been a noob, had these messages, and not left. Survivor bias - when people wrongly attribute their own experience as evidence to global experiences. You and I surviving is not evidence that people don’t leave. The number of bots, the number of logins, the number of multi-boxed alts… Not many people play this game, and it is significantly different in terms of population and behavior from 10 years ago when I started. People are not joining and hanging on. They are not joining at a steady pace. There’s too much churn. We’d need data to say so definitively, and I doubt our hosts will provide it, but I’m convinced Eve is populated mostly by bittervets and that new players are not joining in a steady stream and staying at the optimal rate. I would like them to at the optimal rate so the game grows and thrives. I’d like to see CCP be highly profitable and hire plenty of people to redesign ugly ships like the Helios and make nicer skins. I’d like to see PVE improved to be more immersive and fun. None of that happens if a company is holding on for dear life and the playerbase is slowly aging. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/57 "2024-01-22T17:57:24Z")
> [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > People are not joining and hanging on. They are not joining at a steady pace. Indeed. But some stupid message that you might see once or twice a year flashing on the screen is not the cause. Not even a little bit. It’s there to add flavor to the EVE experience. No more. No less. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/58 "2024-01-22T20:58:29Z")
> [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > Survivor bias OMG…some poooor person has to ‘survive’ having a message pop up on the screen. How will they ever cope ! The psychiatric clinics must be full of gibbering clients all muttering ’ I was just entering Halaima…when all of a sudden a horrifying message appeared !’ > [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > You and I surviving is not evidence that people don’t leave. Gosh how silly. You’re the one claiming people do, due to this non issue. The burden of evidence is thus on you. Oh…you don’t have any. > [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > There’s too much churn. There’s too much whining. _You_ probably put more people off with your public whining about a non-existent problem than ever leave from fright at some Eve message. Think on that. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/373864_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/59 "2024-01-23T00:13:32Z")
**My Opinion?** I have Aura muted. Whatever it is she says, I don’t hear it. There are far too many generic buzzers, blips, bings, gongs, and other random noises to associate them with whatever is wrong with the ship. I normally notice I am under attack, when I hear the thunderous sounds from the missiles hitting the hull of my ship. By that time, I barely can utter, “Oh no, not again.”. The flash slab that announces a pirate has entered a system isn’t much use to me. That should be broadcast to the pirate, mirrored disco balls should drop from the ceiling of their ship and “Disco Inferno” by the Trammps should blare on their system. Their ship should suffer a 50% power loss from this active alarm. Meanwhile any players within 500 km of the pirate should be given s’mores. Fly safe o7 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680/60 "2024-01-23T07:31:00Z")
> [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > The fans of a ~~dying~~ game they love and wish to continue playing should not be shouting down feedback from newcomers We read what some of these newcomers feel compelled to write on forums. Then we try to compare it to our own experiences and put it in the context _we_ know, and reply. These newcomers may not like what we reply and, at worst, totally ignore advice and context. That is unfortunate. Not all - in fact very few - suggestions are worth more than a quick consideration, stemming merely from a lack of insight and understanding. The best way to approach EvE as a newcomer is with _some modesty_, and _an open mind_ to at least try to _understand_ why things are - and have been - the way they are. That even includes the popup message in local that is there to increase everyone’s awareness. Do with it what you want. And that understanding may take many months, given the many aspects and mechanics, if ever. > [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > it would be easy to code in some rules that the message only appears to the concerned party I like it when there is a popup saying some ‘criminal’ entered the system, even when it’s about me (and I forgot to pay attention to my standings, safety settings or w/e else). It is intel. Intel in EvE is important. > [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > The game is dying for a reason. Ah, the famous EvE is dying, used as a crutch to demand random changes. Well, EvE is not dying. Few have the tenacity to learn to play it, but that was never different. What _is_ different now is the level of complaining on forums. > [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](#): > > It must change. The game changes all the time. But what will not change is its atmosphere of risk (ship loss). “The ‘You will be terminated’ message is scary to new players” ? Perhaps it’s meant to be scary. I’ll leave it to the rookies to figure that one out. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-you-will-be-terminated-message-is-scary-to-new-players/436680.md?page=4)