# Theatres of War **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 3, 2026, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665 "2026-09-03T17:18:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AristaBarret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aristabarret/32/510167_2.png) [@AristaBarret](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AristaBarret)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/21 "2026-09-05T22:54:10Z")
So anyway was that just one account that you can make all that money on? With level fours? I haven’t done pve in years and the 60 million hour was like seriously what I would get when I did it. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/22 "2026-09-05T23:39:17Z")
> [@AristaBarret](#): > > Jesus Christ bro. Is that just one account? No - I wish (1 main + 4 alts). But I only play for 1-2 hours a day and net a billion ISK/daily (so 30 billion ISK/month - plus SP extraction, market sales, etc.) This is straight L4s - no Burner missions. It is a very **intense** 1-2 hours (no shortage of clicking and multitasking). Just on my main (playing solo) I can usually average 250m-350m ISK/hour (you lose a lot of efficiency running multiple alts). I’m not being greedy by running the highest ISK/LP (SOE) or lowest security rating (0.5) - otherwise I could probably eek out more. ---
**Author:** ![AristaBarret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aristabarret/32/510167_2.png) [@AristaBarret](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AristaBarret)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/23 "2026-09-06T00:27:58Z")
Now that sounds like a success story. Sometimes an old friend comes back and we go do a level four together. It’s good fun. Man hearing that and then thinking about the money that some of the miners make in high sec… Crazy. Would you mind discussing where the loot distribution categories are for that? Like how much of it is LP how much of it is ask and how much of it is loot dropped on the ground or salvage? You blitz? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/24 "2026-09-06T01:11:40Z")
By and large mining isn’t very lucrative in high-sec. Competition frequently cuts into profits… With respect to the L4s I run, I’d say maybe 25% is derived from LP, 35% from bounties/mission rewards and 40% from loot/salvage (these can vary of course, but this is probably a close average). Loot over 100k is generally sold to buy orders at Jita with anything under that reprocessed into ores to manufacture items for the LP store. I do blitz the occasional mission, but most are full clears (including bonus rooms). I probably loot 25% of the ones that are worthwhile. ---
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/25 "2026-09-06T01:17:14Z")
it is always useful to at least look at the loot in wrecks, I once got a mid grade crystal omega implant from a normal frigate wreck in a gurasties hideaway. ---
**Author:** ![AristaBarret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aristabarret/32/510167_2.png) [@AristaBarret](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AristaBarret)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/26 "2026-09-06T01:45:27Z")
He probably knows the loot table on every NPC in there. I’m pretty sure it’s only special ones that have special loot ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/27 "2026-09-06T02:12:46Z")
I don’t typically run combat sites. L4 missions worth looting: - Berserk, Damsel, Scarlet (2nd/3rd room) - Enemies (1, 3-5), Zazzmatazz, Angel (4th room) I blitz Recon, Cargo, Wildcat and Slavers. I skip Anomaly wherever possible (and Burners, though I could probably start doing the Team Butner again). ---
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/28 "2026-09-06T03:05:13Z")
i dont do loot tables, it was just an enemy frigate that you can find at any site, but it rolled on the implant, which i have no intention of ever using because i dont have any other crystal implants, and that was when i was a rookie. ---
**Author:** ![AristaBarret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aristabarret/32/510167_2.png) [@AristaBarret](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AristaBarret)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/29 "2026-09-06T03:52:42Z")
It’s amazing how many people will watch a YouTube video or do a Google search on how to be better at things in this game… And the best advice you can get is from the expert doing it himself. Don’t believe the things you read on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/30 "2026-09-06T04:03:57Z")
what do you mean by that, are you calling me a liar, but at any rate, you are right, never look something up to get better at the game, the ai makes you worse with the fittings especially. half the time it doesn’t even call the modules the correct thing and the other half it mixes up what hull class it is and how many slots of each type it has ---
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/31 "2026-09-06T04:10:28Z")
I don’t know, but I think their entire goal on the forums and game these days is to just to make content of arguments and stuff to get amused about when they look at it and never do anything about it. (at least that is how it feels like sometimes) ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/32 "2026-09-06T04:33:47Z")
Burners are quite good loot wise and a decent challenge as long as you don’t use a Trig ship 🙂 With those I try to fit different loadouts , it’s isk efficient while also a good testing opportunity and in general quite fun ---
**Author:** ![AristaBarret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aristabarret/32/510167_2.png) [@AristaBarret](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AristaBarret)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/33 "2026-09-06T04:57:23Z")
You talking to me man? I’m talking to Arthur. Drosers. I agree. It’s people like Kage. He will demonstrate what I mean here shortly. Guaranteed. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/34 "2026-09-06T05:48:46Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > Burners are quite good loot wise They can be. The main return in Burners is the LP. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/35 "2026-09-06T07:03:27Z")
I find them to be more time efficient too once a person learns how to do them . I agree that finding out how to do that yourself can be a lot more fun than just resorting to YouTube or streamer content. That said if a person is struggling or ask for advice it’s a decent thing to assist to a point ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/36 "2026-09-06T07:54:24Z")
Warcraft for example. I used to run a guild that made #2 of all time on our server, subtle brag i guess but thats not the point. Its to validate my story. I was able to raid with and gather numbers in exact detail for the best raiders on the server. Do you know what happens if i use anything on the first five pages of Google or ANY YouTube video about how to do better DPS? Not one single time of doing this has any interwebber ever beat the guys who are experts right now doing the content. In fact. they couldn’t even do better than my own toons and Im not even really DPS… i was tank. I just was told how to play DPS by my own guys. The internet is usually just some noob trying to collect subs or views. And btw, i did let some of those guys into the raids to make videos. I allowed them to do NOTHING but dps and ignore everything else. We even buffed the guy as much as we could to make his meters look good for us all. Thats the best youtube will ever get and its still not really reality. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/37 "2026-09-06T08:15:56Z")
The best option would indeed be to reach out to those who play for advice instead of reaching out to a machine , Ai or Streamers looking for clicks . How said player convey that information is important in the sense of instruction should be both clear but also positive and encouraging 🙂 Coaching in anything is a skill for certain . ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/38 "2026-09-06T08:17:53Z")
lol positive and encouraging… you aint played games with me or anyone i play with. its the opposite. fk yer feelings bro. its time to put up or shutup. Toxic is the standard. IF you dont take the money and run I kick you out. I hire people to handle small issues like being nice when someone complains. Its not real… i tell them how to answer. Would you like to hear it? None of it is brought any higher… its just for the complainer to be heard. End of story. The guy you complain to doesnt work for you… he works for me. People forget that. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/39 "2026-09-06T08:21:05Z")
So You are saying you have an autocratic leadership style with delegative aspects ? ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665/40 "2026-09-06T08:23:52Z")
idk bro. im just being as factual as I can and enjoying the conversation. You call it whatever you like. Any good leader would delegate tasks. Its just like running a business in how you only work with apsects yourself that effect the most people. Leaders dont work out small problems. Auto dealer owners dont clean floor mats. If they did, the big jobs would never get done and that ends up being the bottleneck for the entire organization. In fact, a good leader will fire a director that brings the issues up the laddar and not down. It is his job, if he doesnt solve it, he fails. So delegation is required in that order. The representative has a job to do and so does the CEO you know what i mean? Commands come down the chain, not up. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theatres-of-war/517665.md?page=3)