# There are some good people around here **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 25, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650 "2017-11-25T15:15:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/202 "2017-12-09T22:15:50Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > This is the 201st post in a thread where most of the posters are complaining that someone is being called the villain. What? No one gives a ■■■■ about being called a villain. That’s not even the topic of this thread. Most posts I’ve read here haven’t worried about that at all. They’re just trying to reason with your dumb ass and stupidity. It’s a futile objective because like many dumb asses, you ignore posts you can’t argue against and just perpetuate your trolling by addressing posts you think you can respond to, and end up just magnifying the stupidity even more. Just makes us all stupid in the end, for even responding. ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/203 "2017-12-10T05:33:18Z")
In the advertisement CCP made with the “Be the villain.” ending, do you think they meant space villain? Did you happen to notice that you can’t be actual, in-game villains in the traditional sense? You can’t be Sansha or Gurista or Angel, Serpentis, etc. Were they referencing space villainy or was it a reference to the innate duality present in the human animal, whereby he or she has the capacity to be kind OR cruel, constructive OR destructive, noble OR vile, etc.? You entered the game and chose to use it as a vector to express your will to dominate. Why is that not exactly what it seems? Are you that disturbed by it? > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > you ignore posts you can’t argue against I don’t ignore any posts. Some of them just don’t warrant a response. Some are incoherent. Some are redundant. Some I would consider very off-topic or leading that way. Some are ad hominem, etc. Benjamin Franklin’s quote pops up in my bead sometimes to remind me to shut up: “Many a long dispute among divines may be thus abridged: It is so; It is not so. It is so; it is not so.” ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Sebiestar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_sebiestar/32/502522_2.png) [@Mina\_Sebiestar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Sebiestar)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/204 "2017-12-10T05:40:18Z")
Lock this garbage. ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/205 "2017-12-10T05:58:30Z")
I agree, a thread started with good intentions was ruined by a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/206 "2017-12-10T06:57:06Z")
Dunno. So far OP has earned isk off this thread. There might be more forthcoming as people seek to support OP against said trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/207 "2017-12-10T08:27:34Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > Were they referencing space villainy or was it a reference to the innate duality present in the human animal No they’re advertising a game so they’re talking about space villainy quite obviously. To incite your customers to break the law isn’t what makes them money. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/208 "2017-12-10T08:41:18Z")
But maaaan, this game is reeeeaaallll!!!11111oneoneone Just ask all those who cry when they get ganked, those who can not undock when there’s an afk cloaker around and ask the miners when they get ganked! It’s all real! REAL!! ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/209 "2017-12-10T13:37:17Z")
> [@Keno\_Skir](#): > > they’re talking about space villainy quite obviously. It’s not at all obvious except to those who already have their mind made up. That you believe in one possibility over another and refuse to consider alternatives is a choice. Even the authors of that video might have trouble remembering what they meant, so far down the line, letalone be able reconcile that with what they actually said and what others heard. All you can know is what they said and what you heard. But those are probably not the same thing. You have the ability to choose what you are in the game, moreso than virtually any other game that I can think of. But that’s not an excuse. You are not exempted from being that thing you are choosing to be. How would your actions be meaningful if that were so? That doesn’t mean when you kill someone in the game, you’re a murderer in real life. That’s a straw man argument. Literally no one has made that argument, but some of you think so because that’s what YOU HEAR. > [@Keno\_Skir](#): > > To incite your customers to break the law isn’t what makes them money. Being disrespectful is not against the law. Being abusive is quite a murky subject that the law hasn’t quite figured out, yet. Being deceptive is . . . [Catfish](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catfish:_The_TV_Show). Treachery is not the name of any crime I know of. But these (and there are others) are the embodiment of wrongfulness. “You should not do magic you do not understand.” ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/210 "2017-12-10T14:41:29Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > It’s not at all obvious except to those who already have their mind made up. That you believe in one possibility over another and refuse to consider alternatives is a choice. It’s not a choice, since one side is factually accurate and one is not. EvE is a game and so when the creators advertise you can be “something” they mean in game. You’re literally thicker than two short planks to think otherwise. As if the creators of call of duty mean real life when they suggest you can buy call of duty and be a soldier. Come on 😊 > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > You have the ability to choose what you are **IN THE GAME** Yes i agree, thankyou for specifying “in the game” and not in real life, because thinking it meant real life would be incredibly stupid. > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > How would your actions be meaningful if that were so? They aren’t. Your actions aren’t meaningful because you are playing a video game which is unimportant in the grand scheme of things. > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > That doesn’t mean when you kill someone in the game, you’re a murderer in real life We know. You’re the one who said that. > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > That’s a straw man argument. Again we know, but you keep saying it. > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > Being disrespectful is not against the law. Agreed. But being disrespectful doesn’t make you a villain either so… > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > Treachery is not the name of any crime I know of. Then you don’t know what you’re on about : [Treachery (law) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treachery_(law)) > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > “You should not do magic you do not understand.” You should not get butt-hurt over things you do not understand. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/211 "2017-12-10T15:12:57Z")
Serious question: Do you enjoy this? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/212 "2017-12-10T15:38:03Z")
Serious Answer : It helps me get through particularly monotonous times at work. I have always enjoyed “debate” and although I realize that isn’t strictly what’s going on here I’m happy to communicate with people I find interesting for one reason or another. ---
**Author:** ![Rogwar\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rogwar_toralen/32/43088_2.png) [@Rogwar\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rogwar_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/213 "2017-12-10T22:06:29Z")
Lots of good people to fleet with and fight against in Eve. There’s all sorts of fun to be had in corps and public fleets with lots of helpful, funny, and nice people. Exploding your ship is part of the game. Often fun game content is gained by destroying other people’s stuff. Sometimes it’s you having a blast making things go bang and other times you get hammered and wake up in the station. For whatever reason the forums are filled with a bunch of wise guys looking to make some smart arse comment or argue with a rock. Most of the game is not like them. Eve is a lot of fun and it’s not dying. ---
**Author:** ![Samuel\_Triptee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samuel_triptee/32/504034_2.png) [@Samuel\_Triptee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samuel_Triptee)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/214 "2017-12-10T23:35:48Z")
So, taken to a logical end, everyone who plays within the rules of any video game and “interferes”… ok,… shoots another in game player is a bad person. I have great difficulty staying conscious and blurring reality that far. I need a drink. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/215 "2017-12-11T09:44:55Z")
Drinks all round :parrotbeer: ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/216 "2017-12-12T05:19:55Z")
Given what a crap show this thread is…yes, we need more alcohol! ---
**Author:** ![Grimliver\_Aurilen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grimliver_aurilen/32/20039_2.png) [@Grimliver\_Aurilen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grimliver_Aurilen)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/217 "2017-12-12T11:13:55Z")
not all pilots are going to give you isk afterwards, most will say get fooked lol ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/218 "2017-12-12T15:38:17Z")
It’s not about the isk It’s about what you can teach the guy you just killed 😉 IF they want to learn ---
**Author:** ![Khergit\_Deserters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khergit_deserters/32/319315_2.png) [@Khergit\_Deserters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khergit_Deserters)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/219 "2017-12-12T23:51:31Z")
Around 2008 or 2009somebody quoted an old 2004 or so interview with a dev. The dev said EVE is “Everyone vs. Everyone.” Not actual proof, more hearsay, but the quote looked authentic. ---
**Author:** ![Patti\_Potato\_Patrouette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/patti_potato_patrouette/32/18901_2.png) [@Patti\_Potato\_Patrouette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Patti_Potato_Patrouette)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/220 "2017-12-23T11:21:45Z")
Ah, yes indeed, ‘who took the money’ Is it worth my while to read the rest of this thread? At some point, in the remaining 53 posts as yet unread, Do you make a point? At all? Ps. To answer you directly: We know by their actions, including their speech acts This is how we KNOW you are not good, indeed perhaps a 'bad apple’ The sort of germ that sours milk and spoils that which was sweet. X Patti ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650/221 "2017-12-23T11:49:33Z")
inb4 “you can’t read emotional intent from text”, which is wrong, of course, except for those with no inside knowledge of themselves… of course. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-are-some-good-people-around-here/41650.md?page=12)