# There needs to be a rebalance on LP stores right now the only one it's profitable is the sisters of Eve **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [March 7, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585 "2019-03-07T21:11:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Darkstone\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkstone_one/32/354014_2.png) [@Darkstone\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darkstone_One)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/41 "2019-05-11T17:47:59Z")
So agree with this topic … There’s also Concord but only possible by Incursion They should give more option for Concord LP Hope CCP read and act ---
**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/42 "2019-05-11T18:22:06Z")
My post was made way before the change was announced lol check your dates. Also you’re wrong, just observe the faction missile launcher market and you’ll see soon. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/43 "2019-05-12T10:31:27Z")
Devoter is at similar price tag 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/44 "2019-05-12T11:01:35Z")
IMO concord LP are fine by their own. on small LP values empire factions may be more interesting, but on big LP values CONCORD capital modules are much more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![marie\_blueprint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marie_blueprint/32/183231_2.png) [@marie\_blueprint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/marie_blueprint)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/45 "2019-05-16T18:37:12Z")
miners need more LP love , faction strips,MLU, gallente mining drones for fucks sake! faction mining ships, faction mining barges! ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/46 "2019-05-16T19:24:32Z")
My issue with the LP store is the artificial difference between items of the same meta Why does a RF scambler BPc cost 240k LP, 48M, and 128+211 tags ; when a CN scrambler costs 42k LP, 16.8M, and 111+185 tags ? Sure they have 1125m more range, but they consume more CPU, more capacitor, and are in the same meta level. They should require the same number of LPs, isk, and tags (but of course different faction tags) It’s the same for the 50mn : the FN costs 108k LP, 43M2 isks, 285+477 tags ; the RF costs 144k LP, 57M6 isks, 381+635 tags. The FN consumes lets PWR and cap, but more CPU and increases the signature more. They are almost the same, they should cost the same and let the market (especially tags) create the difference in prices (I don’t say they should be the same, but they are balanced and somehow should have same creation value) considering ORE : yeah it sucks that the offer for ORE strip miner costs 45k LP plus 30M isks. Make it cost ten time less, but also serpentis tags. Why is there such a high hardcoded ISK value in those items ? ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/47 "2019-05-16T19:27:50Z")
Just this morning I had a few thoughts about this very topic: > [@Stitch Kaneland for CSM 14](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stitch-kaneland-for-csm-14/157518/27): > > Speaking of, I hope you could ask CCP to look into some LP stores and modules. Removing the tags from the modules and increasing the LP point and isk requirements for those modules would make them accessible and CCP can set a target price for them. I am not saying all tag requirements should be removed but was thinking about the removal from the modules but keeping the tags as requirement for module copies in the LP stores. Then modules like Khanid Navy assault missiles launchers and ballisti… I hope he gets elected and at least talks to CCP about it. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/48 "2019-05-16T22:18:57Z")
I actually don’t like “removing tags” at all. Without the tags, you remove the variability of LP market, the need for trade to make profit, a reason to farm specific factions. It basically fixes a minimum cost for the items. I understand that the isk cost makes it an interesting sink, but if you want a dynamic universe you need to make different items worth more or less than other, depending on circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/49 "2019-05-16T22:54:32Z")
You actually increase the variability because tags are no longer the choke point. Tags suffocate the LP stores because they price most things into irrelevance. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/50 "2019-05-16T23:02:47Z")
wtf is that sentence supposed to mean ? If you remove the tags, then the price of the items is ISK\_COST+LP\*MULT, where MULT depends on the other offers. You can’t affirm that putting FIXED amount of isk into an item will increase its variability. On the opposite, if you add an item whose cost is solely fixed by market offer and demand, then that adds variability. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/51 "2019-05-16T23:04:58Z")
To put it in baby language for you then. Tags cost x. That cost can overpower the other costs of items making them wildly overpriced. Therefore only a few items which cost tags are ever worth buying. Therefore tags are bad and do not increase variability. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/52 "2019-05-16T23:06:40Z")
tags don’t cost X, baby. If what you are saying is that the tags are too expensive to make the LP offer worth it, then that’s another issue. Maybe it’s not worth BECAUSE people don’t want to use them for LP orders, BECAUSE the added cost of isk makes the offer not interesting compared to the drop rate. And maybe you are right, maybe there is not enough tag drop in eg missions(or the LP offers require too much of them). That’s something to discuss, I personally don’t care about tags and don’t mind buying them to have the most interesting LP offers. Sure they need more logistic and they need to use market, but I don’t see how that’s a bad thing - just like invention requires to have T1 items and moon goo, just as T3 require wh items, I see no issue in faction/pirat items requiring tags. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/53 "2019-05-16T23:38:56Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Why does a RF scambler BPc cost 240k LP, 48M, and 128+211 tags ; when a CN scrambler costs 42k LP, 16.8M, and 111+185 tags ? Sure they have 1125m more range, but they consume more CPU, more capacitor, and are in the same meta level. that extra range nearly doubles the value on a scram, I think the different prices make sense there. making all faction items meta 8 pretty much makes the meta level meaningless. with the MWDs though there’s less separation in value and if anything it’s inverted as the more preferred MWD is the cheaper one. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/54 "2019-05-16T23:40:18Z")
all faction items are not meta8, see faction armor repairers. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/55 "2019-05-16T23:44:11Z")
reps haven’t been tiericided yet ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/56 "2019-05-17T03:14:16Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I actually don’t like “removing tags” at all. Oh my Lord, I f.-ing said, that I propose to remove the tag requirement from the module, not the blueprints. Can you do me a favor and read all of it? Now on the topic at hand, - Sister probe launcher don’t require 90 zillion tags that never spawn in New Eden, they need to be added - Sister probes do not require 90 zillion tags you can never get because only 1 level 2 mission in nowhere-land can give that storyline mission and the mission will drop 1 tag at a time. Now I fixed Sister launchers and probes and made them very much desirable. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/57 "2019-05-17T06:33:35Z")
> [@corporate\_edgelord\_intern](#): > > I’m not saying Nerf sisters of Eve but add some more new items worth something into the lp stores for the other corporations so people have an incentive to actually do ■■■■ for them While at it we should add republic fleet missiles. To screw ALL caldari lp stores at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/58 "2019-05-17T06:35:05Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > - Sister probes do not require 90 zillion tags you can never get because only 1 level 2 mission in nowhere-land can give that storyline mission and the mission will drop 1 tag at a time. I don’t know about you but I have no trouble getting tags… but then I tend to farm anti-empire missions specifically (+ some other good missions) ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/59 "2019-05-17T10:20:00Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > Oh my Lord, I f.-ing said, that I propose to remove the tag requirement from the module, not the blueprints. > > Can you do me a favor and read all of it? How is that an answer ? I did not say “I don’t like removing the tags for modules not bpc”, did I ? Also I don’t mind adding pirate tag to requirements, and make module use pirate tags while bpc need empire tags. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585/60 "2019-05-17T14:21:14Z")
thats not even true soe store been out years it is more profitable because it has more useful stuff namely scan probes even so op is wrong and there are way better lp stores if he did some research [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/there-needs-to-be-a-rebalance-on-lp-stores-right-now-the-only-one-its-profitable-is-the-sisters-of-eve/144585.md?page=4)