# There's a few things I have to get off my chest that is just really irking me **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 6, 2018, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999 "2018-12-06T07:25:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kuba\_Ganowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuba_ganowski/32/87636_2.png) [@Kuba\_Ganowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuba_Ganowski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/21 "2018-12-06T10:37:33Z")
it doesnt matter right now ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/22 "2018-12-06T11:01:29Z")
_“Only the Paranoid Survive”_ Caldari proverb. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/23 "2018-12-06T11:11:02Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > Perfect example of how the “Good guys” are actually the most toxic ones. You are labeling. ---
**Author:** ![GoPackGo\_Aurilen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gopackgo_aurilen/32/453007_2.png) [@GoPackGo\_Aurilen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GoPackGo_Aurilen)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/24 "2018-12-06T11:13:19Z")
Don’t be such a snowflake. It’s a video game. It’s not important. ---
**Author:** ![Drammie\_Askold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drammie_askold/32/380085_2.png) [@Drammie\_Askold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drammie_Askold)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/25 "2018-12-06T11:13:44Z")
The question in Eve is not _am I paranoid?_ but _am I paranoid enough?_ ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/26 "2018-12-06T12:11:01Z")
So people don’t want to be called “Good guys”? Ok… I mean, you know Polish. You can’t tell me that the below post is not toxic. > [@Devblog: Navigation Structures Inbound!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-navigation-structures-inbound/118641/97): > > ile kurwy ppierdoloone będziecie się jeszcze zajmowali wszystki tylko nie moim pieredolonym sandboxem!!! I’m just pointing out some obvious trends, that is all. ---
**Author:** ![Kuba\_Ganowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuba_ganowski/32/87636_2.png) [@Kuba\_Ganowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuba_Ganowski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/27 "2018-12-06T12:22:08Z")
As, I said before… I didnt want to play your game, it wasnt my choice to put me in Your sandbox… You put me there without my permission ---
**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/28 "2018-12-06T12:26:22Z")
So to summarize…you are saying that you are the CEO of Cesarino mining and salvaging, and if attacked, you will be particularly easy to kill… Just to clarify - what systems do you usually frequent? What are your most active hours? Any favorite ships or fits? ---
**Author:** ![Kuba\_Ganowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuba_ganowski/32/87636_2.png) [@Kuba\_Ganowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuba_Ganowski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/29 "2018-12-06T12:30:36Z")
MOreover… what a ■■■■■■■■ is this: “The game only gives you back what you put in.”… I didnt lie you… but all of you lied me all over the time. I didnt cheat you, your players… but your players could steel, beat and cheat me almost all over the time ■■■■ YOU EVE ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/30 "2018-12-06T12:33:41Z")
Paranoia and cynicism, the unsung survival traits. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/31 "2018-12-06T12:36:23Z")
> [@Kuba\_Ganowski](#): > > I didnt want to play your game, it wasnt my choice to put me in Your sandbox… You put me there without my permission Unless someone coerced you into creating an account, you made the choice to join us in the sandbox. We’re not to blame for your choices, you are. ---
**Author:** ![Kuba\_Ganowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuba_ganowski/32/87636_2.png) [@Kuba\_Ganowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuba_Ganowski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/32 "2018-12-06T12:37:14Z")
Ok dude, could be like you said, i dont care ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/33 "2018-12-06T12:43:38Z")
I put time and effort in, it rewards me with fun. I don’t want to sound rude but if people cheat, beat and steal from you it’s because you let them do. ---
**Author:** ![Kuba\_Ganowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuba_ganowski/32/87636_2.png) [@Kuba\_Ganowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuba_Ganowski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/34 "2018-12-06T12:46:18Z")
Sorry for that answer but… i dont care right now and i dont want to explain you how was it before ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/35 "2018-12-06T13:22:33Z")
Good guys is a label, same as bad guys is a label. Everyone is to be taken for what he/she represents. The shades of gray is better word when you are describing human morality and values. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/36 "2018-12-06T13:27:36Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Everyone is to be taken for what he/she represents. Yeah and that was exactly what I did. I said, he was an example of my experience of how good guys usually are quite toxic themselves. Obviously, there are toxic individuals on both sides. But Kuba was just a good example of someone classifying himself as a good guy saying “eve is toxic”, while at the same time being extremely toxic himself. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/37 "2018-12-06T13:28:38Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > my experience You have found someone who is neither good or bad. Is that understandable? > classifying himself One can label himself too, which is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/38 "2018-12-06T13:33:50Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > “eve is toxic”, while at the same time being extremely toxic himself. What I can say… its time to change the environment maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/39 "2018-12-06T13:36:04Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > You have found someone who is neither good or bad. Is that understandable? Great, then we basically agree and have the same point of view. Again using Kuba was just a mere example. But my underlying point is that no one is truly good or evil based on their in-game actions. We are all just playing a game within its rules and the tools available to us. So a scammer is not evil or shows signs of mental illness (sociopathy), he merely enjoys the game in a certain way within the rules of the game. Just as an anti-ganker is enjoying the game in his way. People just need to understand that both good and evil in-game deeds are part of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999/41 "2018-12-06T18:22:57Z")
> [@Jennifer\_Austin](#): > > I do believe some people develop mental disorders by playing this game Bollocks. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/theres-a-few-things-i-have-to-get-off-my-chest-that-is-just-really-irking-me/124999.md?page=3)