# Thieves **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve, pvp\ **Created:** [November 13, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726 "2020-11-13T21:47:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![King\_Aequitas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/king_aequitas/32/309509_2.png) [@King\_Aequitas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/King_Aequitas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/1 "2020-11-13T21:47:39Z")
I am sick of the Thieves that this new update has spawned… does eve want to alienate its users and side with the filth that sullies eve??? I play mostly nonviolently and rat to get cash to do explorations, but now even that is destroyed because eve only loves its roaming ganktards, thieves and criminals. I HATE this new update to the ess and the fact that some guy in a speed fit battle ship can come and steal all our hard earned cash. frankly it is a totally disgusting update to say the least. only hurting the guys who work legitimately to get money and feeding the ones who use underhanded tactics to win. Am I alone thinking that it should be A LOT harder for a thief to steal from people who work hard to get their cash or even do away with this bias system altogether. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/2 "2020-11-13T21:49:53Z")
> [@King\_Aequitas](#): > > Am I alone thinking that it should be A LOT harder for a thief to steal from people Probably not, but in a way it’s good that this has you so worked up. That presents a problem to overcome, which if you take it as a challenge, creates additional play that you can explore. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/3 "2020-11-13T21:50:34Z")
> [@King\_Aequitas](#): > > who work hard HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA Try a _real_ job! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![King\_Aequitas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/king_aequitas/32/309509_2.png) [@King\_Aequitas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/King_Aequitas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/4 "2020-11-13T21:51:08Z")
you probbably go steal from ratters dont you ---
**Author:** ![Celine\_Sophia\_Maricadie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/celine_sophia_maricadie/32/178829_2.png) [@Celine\_Sophia\_Maricadie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Celine_Sophia_Maricadie)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/5 "2020-11-13T21:51:35Z")
Thieving is legitimate form of game-play just as is your ratting and non-violencing… ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/6 "2020-11-13T21:51:36Z")
Nah, I don’t _work_ for my ISK. That’s for peasants like yourself. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/7 "2020-11-13T21:51:40Z")
In before the lock! 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![King\_Aequitas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/king_aequitas/32/309509_2.png) [@King\_Aequitas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/King_Aequitas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/8 "2020-11-13T21:52:13Z")
so you Buy isk nothing wrong with paying for ingame money i guess good on you then ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/9 "2020-11-13T21:55:12Z")
You can always come to high sec, we only have trigs that gank you on gates, if you dont go to Pochven to gain standings with them. ---
**Author:** ![King\_Aequitas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/king_aequitas/32/309509_2.png) [@King\_Aequitas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/King_Aequitas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/10 "2020-11-13T21:55:56Z")
haha thought has occured but i never want to move back to high sec lowsec has a charm to it 🙂 just this new update is killing me ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/11 "2020-11-13T21:56:04Z")
Rarely, actually. I always find ways of making money without actually putting work in. If I wanted to _work_ for ISK I’d go find a job … … because grinding for ISK is stupid. But hey … you do you. There’s nothing wrong with being a peasant. : - ) ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/12 "2020-11-13T21:56:21Z")
> [@King\_Aequitas](#): > > just this new update is killing me You’re just greedy. ---
**Author:** ![King\_Aequitas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/king_aequitas/32/309509_2.png) [@King\_Aequitas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/King_Aequitas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/13 "2020-11-13T21:58:22Z")
i have a few ideas on how to fix the issue 1. put defencive structures up for the ess as it is a concorde structure this will make it harder to steal from and make it more of a chalange for people that the odd ganktard cant come steal when he is alone 2. increase the steal time to 15 mins to give people a chance to activly protect the ess 3. allow friendly ships of the owned teritory to move freely in the ess bubble giving an advantage in home space ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/14 "2020-11-13T21:59:30Z")
The only thing that needs fixing is your attitude towards the game. There’s nothing wrong with it … … you’re just too greedy. Please send me your ISK before you leave. It’d be a waste to having it rot in a dead account. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/15 "2020-11-13T21:59:46Z")
> [@King\_Aequitas](#): > > i have a few ideas on how to fix the issue I have a better idea: stop being a lazy whiner, form a PvP fleet, and defend it yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/16 "2020-11-13T22:08:25Z")
There is no need to defend it - if it is SO easy, they should just go to the next system over and rob _their_ bank. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/17 "2020-11-13T22:11:30Z")
But then how would OP get to keep their moral superiority over the “roaming ganktards, thieves and criminals”? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/18 "2020-11-13T22:13:36Z")
How confused do people have to be to drag real-life morality into a fictional video game? ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/19 "2020-11-13T22:17:40Z")
It’s a game. Stealing is part of the stuff that we all agree to as players. Don’t rat in SovNull if you don’t want to risk your ESS being stolen from. HTFU. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726/20 "2020-11-13T22:20:17Z")
Stealing loot in hs was a lot of fun and good content driver. CCP nerfed it because of all the salt. Same will happen with this… [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thieves/279726.md?page=2)