# Third Time's the Charm - Brisc Rubal for CSM 16 **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Created:** [April 18, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375 "2021-04-18T03:58:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/85 "2021-04-23T13:52:51Z")
> [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](#): > > So Brisc Rubal are you running against OZ and Matterall over who will get to be Rattatis lover, partner in crime and head propagandist? Maybe we should hold a youtube event and let Brisc Rubal, OZ, and Matterall fight to the death and the winner gets to kiss Rattatis ass all day everyday. No. > [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](#): > > . How can you be expected (trusted) to fight for the players when you can’t even ask Rattati a hard question on your youtube show. It’s a Twitch show, and we asked him a number of hard questions. > [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](#): > > If you can’t show a spine in public on your youtube channel with Rattati you most definitely wont have a spine behind closed doors with Rattati. Because shaming someone publicly that you then have to work with behind the scenes is generally a bad idea. That wasn’t the point of the show. We wanted to get information out to the players. There were a number of things he said that were of value. > [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](#): > > The CSM is made worthless because they have to sign a NDA which means the DEVS truly don’t give a ■■■■ about what the players think. Nothing breaks down communication faster than a NDA. No, the CSM is made effective by the NDA, because CCP feels comfortable sharing ideas with us that may never make it to the light of day because they don’t have to worry about us running to reddit every ten minutes every time they brainstorm something completely stupid. > [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](#): > > . The CSM is worthless and does nothing for the players. You should stick to kissing Rattatis ass on your youtube channel, you seem sucksessfully good at that. There’s an entire list of things in this very thread that we’ve accomplished for the players this term, and forgive me if I don’t particularly value the feedback of a person who thinks success is spelled with the word suck in it. Your oral fixation aside, it was a pretty good show by all accounts and it did what we wanted it to do. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/86 "2021-04-23T13:54:35Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > That is pretty hilariously ironic in this very thread considering who OP is. 🤭 Who exactly do you think I am, that makes this an ironic statement? Are there things I’m doing on the CSM you dislike? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/87 "2021-04-23T14:06:21Z")
No, I am referring to you being the one who was targeted by other CSM members during one of your terms and as a result who CCP expelled from the CSM for which later they apologized once they actually bothered to do an investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/88 "2021-04-23T14:07:59Z")
Ah, got it. Even objective forces for good make mistakes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/89 "2021-04-23T14:09:50Z")
Yeah didn’t expect you to hold grudges about it and true it doesn’t mean a single despite huge mistake should be overemphasized, was not my goal to do so just found it pretty hilarious a statement with that context in mind. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Rocky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/big_rocky/32/251092_2.png) [@Big\_Rocky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Big_Rocky)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/90 "2021-04-25T14:20:37Z")
You got my vote I only ask that we get some Pi QoL changes. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/91 "2021-04-26T20:57:45Z")
One of my side jobs has been a bit of an amateur historian on the CSM and campaigns for the CSM. I’ve been tracking a lot of CSM related items for a year or so, and I was looking at numbers of candidates per CSM. I think you guys might find this interesting. Here’s the total number of candidates for the CSM vs. the slots available. | CSM | # of Candidates | Slots | | --- | --- | --- | | | | | | 1 | 64 | 14 | | 2 | 42 | 14 | | 3 | 40 | 14 | | 4 | 48 | 14 | | 5 | 53 | 14 | | 6 | 57 | 14 | | 7 | 40 | 14 | | 8 | 31 | 14 | | 9 | 36 | 14 | | 10 | 75 | 14 | | 11 | 53 | 14 | | 12 | 64 | 10 | | 13 | 46 | 10 | | 14 | 44 | 10 | | 15 | 40 | 10 | | 16 | 37 so far | 10 | The fact that we have 37 announced candidates so far on the first day you can officially apply is pretty significant, especially as a number of incumbents who have signaled their intention to run again have yet to apply. Looks like we’re on pace for the most CSM candidates (assuming everybody is found eligible) since CSM 12 in 2017. Good luck everybody. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/92 "2021-04-26T21:12:43Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Good luck everybody. Except for Vily. He doesn’t need luck. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/93 "2021-04-26T21:32:25Z")
Campaign season is in full swing here at Brisc for CSM 16 HQ. First up, I did a CSM interview with my buddy DTM, which you can watch as soon as he uploads it to youtube. Second, I did an interview along with a number of CSM candidates with RHP, a largely German language Alliance. You can read it [here.](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zk4Z8g4IXfsFZ5C8ZI9lyEhAB9VX3fW5ak3_DYz17YI/edit#) Third, I sat down with the boys at the Low Life Podcast for my third interview of the season. You can listen to it [here](https://evelowlife.podbean.com/e/low-life-episode-2-interview-with-csm-delegate-brisc-rubal-csm-16-candidate-series/). ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/95 "2021-04-29T13:13:23Z")
Uh. If you really want to make progress on the C19 issue, then you should probably start by taking yourself seriously. Your post is kinda goofy - and easily dismissed. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/97 "2021-04-29T14:41:39Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > You stated in the Low Life Podcast that you agreed to the [Certificate Of Victimisation-19] therapy to enable in-person meetings with CCP developers and CSM members. Am I to understand that you would require similar impositions upon these groups for you to feel comfortable in working closely together? It’s my understanding that it is the various governments of the countries we live in who are only willing to open up international travel to those who have been vaccinated. Given that many, if not most, of the current CSM are vaccinated and should be able to travel, I would like that to be an option. If you don’t want the vaccine, don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/99 "2021-04-29T14:48:39Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > I’m not worried about my health, I’m worried about the health of Developers who choose not to be violated. > And we will see what the Common Law Courts of Britain and International, and maybe the Hague has to say about the human rights to travel. They aren’t going to say anything, and even if they do, that has no impact on me. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/101 "2021-04-29T15:05:25Z")
Good gravy. You really are a precious ❄ ---
**Author:** ![Isaac\_Collins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isaac_collins/32/268473_2.png) [@Isaac\_Collins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isaac_Collins)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/102 "2021-04-29T15:46:07Z")
Brisc Rubal is one of the most important candidates for the CSM that you could ever elect. This man respects all people of all backgrounds, and responds to every inquiry, comment, suggestion or criticism that you can offer. There are few CSM members who could ever be as reliable, productive, and fair as Brisc is, and I think he is the gold standard for what you want in a CSM candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/103 "2021-04-29T16:45:25Z")
Thanks to Frozen Fallout and the guys over at Guldan Age Stories for letting me sit down with them last night. You can watch the interview [here](https://theageofstories.com/interview-with-an-eve-online-player-brisc-for-cms/). [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/d/1/2d1725fd5e650e083577abe6129f95f833965e69.jpeg "Brisc for CMS - Interview with an Eve Online Player") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb5wcUO3Pyo) ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/104 "2021-04-29T17:16:35Z")
> [@Isaac\_Collins](#): > > This man respects all people of all backgrounds, and responds to every inquiry, comment, suggestion or criticism that you can offer. Yeah, yeah, that’s great I guess. But how big will my stimulus check be if I vote for this guy? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/105 "2021-04-29T17:17:16Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > But how big will my stimulus check be if I vote for this guy? $1.05, the price of freedom. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/106 "2021-04-29T17:47:31Z")
Brisc for potus 2024 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/107 "2021-04-30T17:24:40Z")
DTM135 has been doing CSM interviews. As I noted above, I sat down with him earlier this week on twitch. If you missed it, you can check the video out here. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/b/5/cb5fc3c351a01e2b4f37419847b28b2414f84998.jpeg "CSM 16 Interviews : Brisc Rubal") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_KUmglPNaQ) ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375/109 "2021-05-01T08:56:58Z")
Good luck Brisc, I will be voting for you despite my concerns. And thank you for what you did address from my set of uncomfortable questions. Wishing us all well. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/third-times-the-charm-brisc-rubal-for-csm-16/306375.md?page=6)