# This forum is brutal **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 1, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437 "2021-04-01T14:58:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/322 "2021-04-02T07:38:38Z")
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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/323 "2021-04-02T07:39:24Z")
Won’t someone save us? We’re being griefed on the forums! Yes! That’s **with** words! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/324 "2021-04-02T07:42:55Z")
Cultural misunderstandings abound here. I’m British, if I’m insulting you there’s a good chance that I like you and the insults are banter. On the other hand if I’m being overly polite I don’t like you, at all; politeness is a weapon here, a bloody sharp one. ---
**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/325 "2021-04-02T07:47:54Z")
A polite word or two at the appropriate time, hits far harder than an all out insult. I would have to agree with you. Another analogy it’s not the person at the front screaming and shouting that you have to watch, it’s the person at the back being quiet and conducting themselves calmly that you have to keep your eye on. ---
**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/326 "2021-04-02T08:09:27Z")
Conjugating verbs and Latin Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/327 "2021-04-02T08:14:53Z")
Veni, Vermini, Vomui. ---
**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/328 "2021-04-02T08:17:11Z")
“Good now write it out 100 times and don’t do it again” ---
**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/329 "2021-04-02T08:21:59Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > we being playing with you all day and you will listen to this professional victim calling people sadistic , griefers etc ??? > you apear to be smarter than that Sorry, I found his post interesting and well written but it doesn’t mean I agree with everything he wrote. I think everyone is entitled to their opinions and everyone is entitled to like a portion of what someone said without being accused of favoritism. It doesn’t have to only be black or white, especially with opinions. Someone can be right 40% in their statement and that doesn’t mean they’re 100% wrong. I like nuances and benefits of doubts. Only Siths deal absolutes. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > btw you cannot negate that you had a fun day today I cannot deny I’m glad this thread didn’t turn into a free-for-all brawl and locked, true. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > im kinda done with that eve players are sadistic psychopaths narrative though With thousands and thousands of players there are chances some of them aren’t psychologically sound but you’re right, no need to bring it up and pointing the finger at someone there’s three fingers pointing back at you. ( not you personally, Khamsi. ) > [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > I never said it was everyone. I just said this game was a magnet for the type. I don’t think a game is a magnet for a certain type of behavior. You forget the human component: we are unpredictable sometimes and sometimes not very rational, motivations aren’t an easy thing to frame. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > 1 bil says Ka\_lah is a CCP troll. Why do I have to be the troll? And why a _CCP_ troll? Why not a SpaceX troll or a Pfizer troll? I have nothing to do with CCP besides the fact I play their game and betting without knowledge of the truth will only make you lose money. Can I have billion isk now? I could sure use it. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > lies > i edited my post because english is not my primary language so i post and notice > wait this word is not right , this is not exactly what i wanted to say etc > most of my posts are edited several times I understand that. English is an easy language but when you have your language in mind errors are hard to avoid. I have trouble writing exactly what I want to write too, it takes me a minute to find the right words in order to be concise and make sense. > [@Xeux](#): > > Verbally trolling people is only fun when the vic is a pompous, self-absorbed, humorless, greedy myope What’s the point of trolling someone, even if you think they are self-absorbed and all that? It’s fun at the expense of someone who may actually not be aware of their behavior or cannot help being who they are. Doesn’t that border on bullying? Why not just ignore? > [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > But they are a significant part of the player base I doubt that statement. Out of thousands of players? That statement is doomed to be wrong. Let’s be reasonable. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > IMO usually the types that use the sadistic card are people who don’t understand the game very well , lost very little in comparison to other players and want to get sympathy by playing the victim I guess some people take their gaming way to seriously. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > And this Ladies’ and Gentlemen is why the forums are toxic. This thd had a sense of humor till Ridley showed up That may be true but you all didn’t have to jump on his post and have knee-jerk reaction about it. Isn’t he also allowed to state his opinion just like you? Don’t have to read it, don’t have to agree with it and certainly don’t have to latch on his every word. > [@Xeux](#): > > It sounds like Ridley prefers Fortnight anyway What’s wrong with Fortnite? It’s a fun game. People making fun of others because of the game they play, I had that instance school where I had to defend to my friend because she played Pokémon. Is that what we are now here? School children? > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > What about My 1 bil bet that Ka\_lah is a CCP troll! What about I’m not a CCP troll or a SpaceX troll or a Pfizer troll? I could really use the isk, honest. > [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > Not likely. \<0.000000000001% chance Thank you ISD Dorrim Bartorlode!! You saved me, I owe you \<3 Can I have my billion now? 500mil would do too, lol. Look at me begging, I’m reddening at the cheeks, omg. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Edit; Poor girl then… You can change that by honoring your bet, lol > [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > I am glad people are getting their sadistic jollies via video game rather than in real life, however, chats and forum posts breach the gap Why must they be sadistic? Why not they’re just playing the game as intended by CCP? > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Edit; What if I turned the bet into a bounty? Oh no, I need it more than some Ace Ganker. I’m new and only have 30mil tops. > [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > Humor is a great way to tell the truth while simultaneously ignoring it on a conscious level You must have listened to too much Bill Burr. He’s overrated in my opinion. And fyi, he’s married now so all his cute stuff on women…yeah. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I guess what it comes down to is I was lucky enough to not have a sheltered upbringing and can take the hard knocks the game gives out? I was sheltered to extremes but I can take it as well as dish it out if I want to be mean. But that won’t make me any richer mentally or financially. > [@Edmorte\_Fehrnah](#): > > Aristotle: “The word dog does not bite” I like that statement. Aristotle was a great man! > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Someone please help me! I am being griefed by Renly Rohan! Quick! Someone call CONCORD!! > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Help! Help! I am being griefed! CONCORD didn’t show up… figures. Prolly eating doughnuts somewheres. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Edit; removed the arsehole part Was that really needed? ---
**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/330 "2021-04-02T08:24:19Z")
> [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](#): > > The forum mods also protect them. I understand your post but what I quoted borders on paranoïa. I don’t think the ISD care one way or the other. They’re here to make sure the children don’t hurt each other. ---
**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/331 "2021-04-02T08:27:31Z")
> [@Dextrome\_Thorphan](#): > > I would call it trolling, not “roleplaying” I think I would too. Yet again, someone doesn’t like a post and it’s automatically “trolling”. Best way to dismiss someone, too, instead of engaging the person on the ideas instead of the character. ---
**Author:** ![Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadia_kakki_sotken/32/261190_2.png) [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadia_Kakki_Sotken)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/332 "2021-04-02T08:28:01Z")
> [@Ka\_lah](#): > > I understand your post but what I quoted borders on paranoïa. I don’t think the ISD care one way or the other. They’re here to make sure the children don’t hurt each other. What I mean is these players just come to derail threads purposefully to get them closed. The mods would have a lot less work if they just temp banned these people so players could actually have a normal conversation, but instead they just close otherwise perfectly reasonable threads. That’s not paranoia, go to any closed thread and you will probably see it. ---
**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/333 "2021-04-02T08:30:56Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Won’t someone save us? We’re being griefed on the forums! Someone call CONCORD!! 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/334 "2021-04-02T08:32:38Z")
> [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](#): > > it’s the person at the back being quiet and conducting themselves calmly that you have to keep your eye on. It’s always the quiet ones, lol. Or they could simply be shy? ---
**Author:** ![Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadia_kakki_sotken/32/261190_2.png) [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadia_Kakki_Sotken)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/335 "2021-04-02T08:34:48Z")
> [@Ka\_lah](#): > > I understand your post but what I quoted borders on paranoïa. I don’t think the ISD care one way or the other. They’re here to make sure the children don’t hurt each other. and maybe protection is the wrong word, but they do enable that behaviour and it objectively makes the forums worse. A policy change is needed to prevent that type of behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/336 "2021-04-02T08:36:35Z")
> [@Ka\_lah](#): > > It’s always the quiet ones, lol. The problem with being quiet on the forum is that’s just lurking (and yes, I know the subtlety in the original intent posted above, just don’t find that “quiet” always translates well in posts). Lot’s of us do lots of lurking as well as posting, but when it comes to the forum, words are sometimes short, abrupt and direct, because the longer a post is, the less likely it’s full meaning will be understood (or even that people will read beyond the first line or two). Just the nature of the medium to a degree; and I’m sure that if we were all in a room instead, the tone of discussions would be very different. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/337 "2021-04-02T08:38:46Z")
> [@Ka\_lah](#): > > English is an easy language It is, and it isn’t; although that can depend on which particular variety of English you’re using. IIRC @tutucox_Khamsi speaks Portuguese, which like all of the romance languages has little in common with English; which in itself is a hodgepodge of the medieval Saxon and Norman languages, along with all the words that we stole from other cultures. In some areas of the UK the local dialect is quite close to German/Anglo Saxon, and in others it’s the remnants of the English of the 15th century. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/338 "2021-04-02T08:41:25Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > In some areas of the UK the local dialect is quite close to German/Anglo Saxon, and in others it’s the remnants of the English of the 15th century. Don’t worry Jonah, you guys will make it to the 21st century eventually 🙂 EDIT: Oops sorry. You meant language. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/339 "2021-04-02T08:46:08Z")
Could be worse, could be a yank 😃 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/0/d/d0dd7bba34e331bd837f2e716cb3d2f8a6c22bbd.jpeg) As for your dialect. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/3/6/03673012c957543842a62ee22ac23a8331e40475.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/340 "2021-04-02T08:51:09Z")
> [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](#): > > and maybe protection is the wrong word, but they do enable that behaviour and it objectively makes the forums worse. A policy change is needed to prevent that type of behaviour. I really don’t know about that. You may be right. Maybe some of them play favoritism and maybe others are just locking thread because it’s been derailed and enough has been said and that adding to it would only throw fuel on the fire. We can only guess short of the ISD telling exactly why it’s been locked and who was responsible for it but it’s an exercise in futility. They are the ISD and what they say/do is the end of it, period. Imagine their position for a minute. You walk into a cafeteria where everyone is slinging food at each other. Are you going to ask who’s right or who’s wrong? I’d yell out “everybody out! Now! You all are in deep doodoo!!” ---
**Author:** ![Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadia_kakki_sotken/32/261190_2.png) [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadia_Kakki_Sotken)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/341 "2021-04-02T08:53:38Z")
> [@Ka\_lah](#): > > I really don’t know about that. You may be right. Maybe some of them play favoritism and maybe others are just locking thread because it’s been derailed and enough has been said and that adding to it would only throw fuel on the fire. > We can only guess short of the ISD telling exactly why it’s been locked and who was responsible for it but it’s an exercise in futility. They are the ISD and what they say/do is the end of it, period. > Imagine their position for a minute. You walk into a cafeteria where everyone is slinging food at each other. Are you going to ask who’s right or who’s wrong? I’d yell out “everybody out! Now! You all are in deep doodoo!!” My point is that the people who start slinging food are not thrown out. So as soon as the ISD leaves they start slinging food in the next thread. It’s always the same people and it’s really stupid tbh. You can generally get a much better debate on r/eve than you can here. Inb4 someone tells me to leave and go to reddit if I don’t like it here. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437.md?page=18)