# This forum is brutal

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 1, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437 "2021-04-01T14:58:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/642 "2021-04-03T01:38:51Z")

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> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> This was explained early in the thread. Where you been son?

> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> That being said, I have absolutely no idea what is going on in this behemoth of a thread and I just jumped in, cause I saw my name in an image.

> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> Edit: Well early for me. About post 271.

Oh, that one I already responded to.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/643 "2021-04-03T01:41:58Z")

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Well if that’s the case, maybe you should post your questions and veiled accusations with a bit more tact, hmmm?

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/644 "2021-04-03T01:44:11Z")

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> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> Oh, that one I already responded to.

So you understand that my main was shadow banned? You understand what it means to be shadow banned?

Can you see the ship posters constantly posting ship not being shadow banned?

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/645 "2021-04-03T01:46:14Z")

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> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> Can you see the ship posters constantly posting ship not being shadow banned?

Not sure what a ship poster is.

But given your posts in here, I can understand why you’d get banned, while those you call to be banned are not.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/646 "2021-04-03T01:47:23Z")

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> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> I can understand why you’d get banned, while those you call to be banned are not.

Explain. Anybody could say that with nothing to back it up.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/647 "2021-04-03T01:47:24Z")

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I guess this is why I haven’t seen Ridley around lately?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/648 "2021-04-03T01:47:46Z")

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You are the most toxic person here.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/649 "2021-04-03T01:47:54Z")

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I heard he moved to Smash Bros

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**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/650 "2021-04-03T01:48:09Z")

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> [@Ka\_lah](#):
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> adults

Is this a troll thread?

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/651 "2021-04-03T01:53:54Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I guess this is why I haven’t seen Ridley around lately?

Off topic

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> You are the most toxic person here.

Personal attack

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> I heard he moved to Smash Bros

Personal attack

And none of the above is constructive.

All that has happened here is that these guys feel they found a good target, blood in the water, and they automatically go into mindless shark mode.

Its really not hard to see why this forum is brutal. It was brutal long before I became a regular poster, remained so during my year and half long absence, and probably got a little better since I returned and started pointing some of this garbage out.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/652 "2021-04-03T01:55:46Z")

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> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> mindless shark mode

Personal attack.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/653 "2021-04-03T01:56:32Z")

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> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> Personal attack

Please please walk me through the obtuse tunnel of logic you constructed that made Ridley’s addition to Smash Bros a personal attack on you.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/654 "2021-04-03T01:57:19Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Personal attack.

How? Its a mode. I can go into that mode. If there was a personal attack there it was: “automatically” as if you don’t have the will power or intelligence to control yourself.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/655 "2021-04-03T01:59:09Z")

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In the post you referenced, you are using some very strong words to describe people who just enjoy the game differently than you. However, ganking is still all done using valid mechanics and expected gameplay.

Anyway, we could sit here and discuss our differences, while getting increasingly more angry at each other. Or we could just try to take the forums and game a little less serious and return to the light-hearted fun that was this thread some posts above.

The problem between us is, that we have fundamentally different views on the game and what constitutes valid gameplay. We will never agree on anything.

Whatever discussion you wish to have, wouldn’t really matter anyway. Both carebears and gankers, still play the game within the limits of its rules and that is all that really matters.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/656 "2021-04-03T01:59:39Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Please please walk me through the obtuse tunnel of logic you constructed that made Ridley’s addition to Smash Bros a personal attack on you.

Do you have any respect for Smash Brothers or players of it? Do people here generally? That was a shot at my character and you know it.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/657 "2021-04-03T02:01:37Z")

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> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> Do you have any respect for Smash Brothers or players of it?

I do actually but you are so sincerly insanely ticked off at the minute that youll see anything anywhere.

Except the only person here who hasnt seen how monumentally off the rails you are being is you.

Ps. Being good at Smash is well harder than EvE.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/658 "2021-04-03T02:04:12Z")

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> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> you don’t have the will power or intelligence to control yourself.

Personal attack

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/659 "2021-04-03T02:05:24Z")

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Do you know what was also a great game?

Speed Ball II: Brutal Deluxe.

Title of this thread keeps reminding me of it.

Playstation version was pretty good, but even I have to admit the Amiga had it.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/660 "2021-04-03T02:09:15Z")

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> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> Or we could just try to take the forums and game a little less serious and return to the light-hearted fun that was this thread some posts above.

Is it your belief that this thread was meant to be non-serious? I don’t have a problem with humor, but humor was not the intent of the thread I think.

> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> you are using some very strong words to describe people who just enjoy the game differently than you.

Oh dear…strong words? Can you teach some more pleasant words for things like lying, griefing, trolling and sadism? Did you think the word “brutal” in the OP was as pretty and gentle as a lily?

> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> However, ganking is still all done using valid mechanics and expected gameplay.

As I have said a million times its not the ganking half as much as the griefing that is often behind it. Its not a surprise that a game that encourages ganking attracts griefers who then use chats to grief more on top of the ganking, and then grief some more on the forum.

Why do you think Aiko has this internal and persistent need to keep bringing up my mining Gnosis from my early alpha years? That’s a straight up attempt to grief and frankly, I don’t think she can help it.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/661 "2021-04-03T02:11:42Z")

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Quote him before he deletes his posts! 🤣

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