# This forum is brutal **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 1, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437 "2021-04-01T14:58:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/662 "2021-04-03T02:12:33Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Personal attack Parsing the sentence (removal of the “as if”) to make it look like I said something I didn’t is a form of griefing. ---
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/663 "2021-04-03T02:13:37Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Quote him before he deletes his posts! I do not regularly delete my posts. I hardly ever do and explained this earlier. More griefing. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/664 "2021-04-03T02:18:19Z")
> [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > Is it your belief that this thread was meant to be non-serious? I don’t have a problem with humor, but humor was not the intent of the thread I think. I can equally ask, where the hell does it say this needs to be a “srs bsns” kind of thread? If anything, this was posted on the 1st of April, which might have hinted at it being an April fools joke. > [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > Oh dear…strong words? Can you teach some more pleasant words for things like lying, griefing, trolling and sadism? Did you think the word “brutal” in the OP was as pretty and gentle as a lily? So playing a game according to its rules is sadist? > [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > As I have said a million times its not the ganking half as much as the griefing that is often behind it. Its not a surprise that a game that encourages ganking attracts griefers who then use chats to grief more on top of the ganking, and then grief some more on the forum. > > Why do you think Aiko has this internal and persistent need to keep bringing up my mining Gnosis from my early alpha years? That’s a straight up attempt to grief and frankly, I don’t think she can help it. As long as it’s within the boundaries of the game, I’d say it’s all fine as roleplay. Once you start using real life information to harass someone, that’s when it stops being funny and wanders into the territory of actual harassment. If you feel so annoyed by Aiko needling you over a silly in-game loss, you always have the option to just mute her. Both in-game and on the forums. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/665 "2021-04-03T02:19:02Z")
[King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3028oDEKZo4) ---
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/666 "2021-04-03T02:29:37Z")
> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > I can equally ask, where the hell does it say this needs to be a “srs bsns” kind of thread? Except in earnest, you can’t. The OP is obviously serious. And here it is April 3, and the OP has not revealed it to be a joke. Its hard to believe you have even tried to take that tack. > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > So playing a game according to its rules is sadist? Okay. I think this is getting to be a serious waste of my time. There is nothing in the rules that mandates using chats to grief people. Just because you can does not mean you should. And getting off on it speaks to a person’s character. This is all rather obvious. > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > Once you start using real life information to harass someone My choices in this game are a product of my actual mind. You cannot just divorce a person’s game choices from their real self. > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > If you feel so annoyed by Aiko needling you over a silly in-game loss, I don’t. You are missing the point. The point is that she is trying hard to grief and annoy me. The fact she is failing is not relevant. The point of this thread is that the forums are brutal. That was just an illustration of why and you are refusing to acknowledge it. > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > you always have the option to just mute her. And while that might help a person avoid griefing it hurts the forum and the ability of the person using mute to understand what is being talked about. In the end it just drives better posters from the forum, leaving only the brutal posters…who are generally worthless. ---
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/667 "2021-04-03T02:31:31Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man - YouTube Unconstructive. Off topic. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/668 "2021-04-03T02:31:40Z")
Your ranting again. ---
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/669 "2021-04-03T02:32:06Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Your ranting again. “You’re” ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/670 "2021-04-03T02:32:35Z")
Ah, this never gets old! ---
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/671 "2021-04-03T02:33:04Z")
Unconstructive. Unhelpful. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/672 "2021-04-03T02:33:19Z")
> [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > Okay. I think this is getting to be a serious waste of my time. Yes, I already told you that. > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > Anyway, we could sit here and discuss our differences, while getting increasingly more angry at each other. Or we could just try to take the forums and game a little less serious and return to the light-hearted fun that was this thread some posts above. > > The problem between us is, that we have fundamentally different views on the game and what constitutes valid gameplay. We will never agree on anything. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/673 "2021-04-03T02:34:10Z")
And your any help either? You must be trying to shut down the thd on purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/674 "2021-04-03T02:37:54Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > And your any help either? “You’re” This is the short form of “you are”. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > You must be trying to shut down the thd on purpose. By sticking to the topic and answering the OP in detail and being honest? By pointing out examples that illustrated the claim in the OP? This accusation from a guy who is off topic 80 percent of the time, makes false accusations, almost never posts beyond two short sentences and rarely anything of substance? You got to be kidding me. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/675 "2021-04-03T02:39:20Z")
I enjoy your twist of “on topic”. It’s like watching a worm on hot pavement. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/676 "2021-04-03T02:41:42Z")
> [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > it speaks to a person’s character Personal attack > [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > rarely anything of substance Personal attack ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/677 "2021-04-03T02:43:35Z")
I thought we already went through the “personal attack” phase? Are we back to that again? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/678 "2021-04-03T03:10:23Z")
That is all Renly brings. ---
**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/680 "2021-04-03T03:19:36Z")
> [@Paliphany\_Bradbury](#): > > skill points that can’t be ganked Be carefull. Don’t give CCP crazy ideas.🤫 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/681 "2021-04-03T08:15:26Z")
If feeling any sense of satisfaction or pride when you get a kill makes you a greifer, Oompa Loompas are so screwed. The little orange bastards dance. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/682 "2021-04-03T08:47:38Z")
Maybe Ridders wouldnt get banned so much if he didnt rush into chats spinning his arms and claiming anyone who gets hit was asking for it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437.md?page=33) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437.md?page=35)