# This forum is brutal

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 1, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437 "2021-04-01T14:58:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/723 "2021-04-03T12:25:48Z")

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> [@Ka\_lah](#):
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> I don’t think we’re restricted, though.

You are restricted in your language.

As for the acts, you are restricted when you play in HS : unlawful violence is subject to 15 min cooldown and a fine of the value of your ship.

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**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/724 "2021-04-03T12:31:04Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> I enjoy your twist of “on topic”.
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> It’s like watching a worm on hot pavement.

👍 I’m enjoying it, too. I’m smiling as I read some of that nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/725 "2021-04-03T12:50:00Z")

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> [@Ka\_lah](#):
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> I wholeheartedly agree with “can’t have heroes without villains”, it’s so logical that it needs not be mentioned.

Firemen.

There. Debunked.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/726 "2021-04-03T12:50:57Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> As for the acts, you are restricted when you play in HS : unlawful violence is subject to 15 min cooldown and a fine of the value of your ship.

I think the meaning was “restricted by out of game rules”, like with exploits.

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**Author:** ![cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyraxthehated_metesur/32/409997_2.png) [@cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cyraxthehated_Metesur)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/727 "2021-04-03T15:07:49Z")

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Curls up on couch with popcorn…

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**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/728 "2021-04-03T15:10:56Z")

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Is it caramel popcorn?

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**Author:** ![cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyraxthehated_metesur/32/409997_2.png) [@cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cyraxthehated_Metesur)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/729 "2021-04-03T15:12:33Z")

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Smartfood white chedda!!!

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**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/730 "2021-04-03T15:20:45Z")

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Cheese popcorn? Yuuuuk! How can you eat that?

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**Author:** ![Quentin\_Schaefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quentin_schaefer/32/471507_2.png) [@Quentin\_Schaefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quentin_Schaefer)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/731 "2021-04-03T15:44:02Z")

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It’s not bad, but nothing beats plain popcorn with salt and butter.

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**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/732 "2021-04-03T15:45:34Z")

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Some people like it. Individual taste varies person to person. Me, I like chocolate caramel popcorn, bug i also won’t say no to a rosemary sea salt popcorn.

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/733 "2021-04-03T15:52:41Z")

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> [@Ka\_lah](#):
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> > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> > I don’t think CCP should restrict in-game player behavior. The game is much more interesting with people who act badly. You can’t have heroes, without villains.
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> I don’t think we’re restricted, though. Players can steal, lie, cheat… which I’m not judging, if the game mechanics and devs made it so then I have no problem with it.
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> I wholeheartedly agree with “can’t have heroes without villains”, it’s so logical that it needs not be mentioned.

My only mention about this is… most of villains who act as villain they dont want to own the shits they have pulled… thye would like to harass but when other side return the harassment .. they just gone mad ..or either they want and expecting this .. to carry it to tickets or use as a token for future harassments ..  
interesting ..

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/734 "2021-04-03T16:22:59Z")

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Also while many games seeking ways to diminish toxic behaviours… Eve Online simply incentivise player base for that… and encourage them … and this way… it has grat potential to be an outlet for malign narcicists… psychopaths and sociopaths … Where they can exist and thrive without feeling any preassure …

this is a great outlet area because also rules are designed to nurture them but not punish them .

Especially in PVP voice comms has critical importance… and In EVE Online voice comms are very important and most of harassmets occurs actually in comms more than written ingame channels …

CCP doesnt accept any responsibility for that… and by removing ingame comms they totally remove themselves from that responsibility …

also they remove themselves from responsibility around Human Rights under the title of role playing…  
And this game is PEGI scale 12 years old…

When i had experienced very heavy harassment the second i open my mouth and they realised im women … i just left the comms without saying anything and leave the game… when i shared this and ticket they told me to record it next time then they can help…

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/735 "2021-04-03T16:29:15Z")

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look  
ms @Aiko_Danuja is a powerful woman  
ms @Ka_lah liked that , and she wants some, she is ready to rock  
its your time to stop being the victim ms @bluelysian and fight for your goals  
else  
stop playing , its not worth to suffer because of a video game

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btw you can be like me, just a grain of sand in the desert  
as long as you are happy with that

edit2:  
lets suppose that eve have a lot of bad people , go away from them and approach the good ones

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/736 "2021-04-03T16:35:51Z")

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may be first you need to tell yourself … why dont “you” stop playing this game you can do that… but not others …

learn your limits first then talk

??? you have no right to tell people what to do… where is your entitlement coming from ?? did CCP authorised you there ??

and also … you dont have anything else to do than licking peoples ass?

lol also everything i wrote … SIMPLY FACTS… so what is you point… ? you cant make any comments about my statements… and just turn into ad hominem personal harassment…

you toxic… and we know it… moove on

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/737 "2021-04-03T16:41:15Z")

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i was trying to be positive and give you some love  
the point was  
keep at range from the bad people , approach the good ones  
there is a lot of powerful girls in the game  
etc…  
maybe i failed to communicate that  
but i will not try it again , i think you like to spread your bad feelings

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/738 "2021-04-03T16:49:25Z")

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its very common behaviour to tell people leave the game in EVE… and ask may i have your stuff if anyone write something sad and reflect their resentment… Nearly like THEY HAVE NO RIGHT to feel resentment … like that emotion shouldnt exist… like little ugly duck … When we commit to play we do accept the harsh nature of game… losses are real scamming is legal… people can steal things from you by using in game mechanics … But not by using outside game tools…

i did PVP too… but i have never did it for harassment purpose… or for intimidation… Today so many people especially young ones… extremely lost their perspective about to seperate things … And this is dangerous…

harassing other doesnt makes you strong person … Or using those mechanics to provide outlet for malign pathalogy…

If you would like to approach someone with well intentions… one of the things you need to pay attention is not comparing them with others…

every individual is different and special to itself in the world… and people has their own ways and time apperceptions to roll things in their own paces…

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/739 "2021-04-03T16:50:08Z")

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![silent](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/e/1/9e1648e88b6e0115e758e3fc1c26f25603dda4a9.png)

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/740 "2021-04-03T16:55:26Z")

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> [@bluelysian](#):
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> CCP doesnt accept any responsibility for that… and by removing ingame comms they totally remove themselves from that responsibility …

Kicking myself for not realizing that myself ages ago. Dayummmmm…thank you for that explanation.

> [@bluelysian](#):
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> it has grat potential to be an outlet for malign narcicists… psychopaths and sociopaths … Where they can exist and thrive without feeling any preassure …
> 
> this is a great outlet area because also rules are designed to nurture them but not punish them .

Yup. As soon I start identifying that sort of toxic behavior, people think I want to shut EVE down or something. No. I am glad they are online, getting jollies in the game. But sooooo many people come to EVE not expecting so much of the horrific abuse that goes on, and I mean in chats, comms and the forum and that’s just plain wrong. People should definitely come to this game and all its related areas with their guard up. And CCP should definitely encourage them to have their guard up and expect abuse…and do what it can to warn people up front. Just billing New Eden as a dangerous place doesn’t cut it.

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**Author:** ![Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuoliganar_madeveda/32/264682_2.png) [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuoliganar_Madeveda)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/741 "2021-04-03T17:05:01Z")

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Can you guys take your tinfoil hats somewhere else this was a perfectly nice thread before no need to start this.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/742 "2021-04-03T17:06:05Z")

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> [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](#):
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> Can you guys take your tinfoil hats somewhere else

Never mind us. Stay here with your happy blinders on.

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