# This forum is brutal

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 1, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437 "2021-04-01T14:58:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/101 "2021-04-01T17:02:08Z")

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> [@Ka\_lah](#):
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> pushed out never to return

e-darwinism

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**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/102 "2021-04-01T17:02:39Z")

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> [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](#):
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> No-one wants to argue with people asking to remove pvp or those who wear tinfoil hats

So for lack of arguing with them they deserve insults and ridicule to the point of pushing them out of the community?  
I’d rather argue with them than making it clear they are not welcome on the forum.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/103 "2021-04-01T17:03:28Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> e-darwinism

That’s not relate to what darwinism is about.

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**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/104 "2021-04-01T17:03:29Z")

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> [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](#):
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> you should join the Eve sub-reddit see what they think about all of this.

I’m not allowed to go on reddit.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/105 "2021-04-01T17:04:05Z")

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> [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](#):
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> But no-one could ever challenge such an elite pvper as you and live to tell the tale.

I wish that were true, and even if it _would_ be, there’s always the N+1 solution.

The point is, when you post something about the game or its players that some others disagree with, the fact that a real-life threat is more likely than an in-game threat is just _sad_.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/106 "2021-04-01T17:04:42Z")

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> [@Ka\_lah](#):
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> TV isn’t real life. Your video exemple isn’t real life. Where I live, if people behave like that they just get shot.

Oh, but it is.

Ever seen a video of groups of protesters clashing with one another? Thats as real as it gets. When people argue and debate over differences of opinion, it gets nasty, because people are passionate, and they think they are right.

Its like that in the US, its like that in Canada, its like that in Japan, its like that in Australia. Its like that in any country that has freedom of speech and freedom of rights, and its also like that sometimes in countries that dont have freedoms at all.

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**Author:** ![Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuoliganar_madeveda/32/264682_2.png) [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuoliganar_Madeveda)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/107 "2021-04-01T17:05:33Z")

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I don’t but when people troll, what do you expect to come out of it? And people do, eventually people get bored of fighting with someone that incites said argument.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/108 "2021-04-01T17:06:05Z")

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> [@Ka\_lah](#):
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> Maybe and maybe not. We don’t know how many members have been pushed out never to return, do we?

Well, we kinda do know, because ive argued with the same people over and over again. They dont seem to be going anywhere, and neither am I.

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**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/109 "2021-04-01T17:06:06Z")

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We are not talking about protests and riots. We are talking about discussions and disagreeing with one another.

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**Author:** ![Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuoliganar_madeveda/32/264682_2.png) [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuoliganar_Madeveda)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/110 "2021-04-01T17:06:41Z")

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Discussing and disagreement is the very reason for most riots and protests.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/111 "2021-04-01T17:06:49Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> That’s not relate to what darwinism is about.

lack evidence

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**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/112 "2021-04-01T17:07:00Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> They dont seem to be going anywhere, and neither am I

Then those are not the people I’m talking about since they never left.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/113 "2021-04-01T17:07:14Z")

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> [@Ka\_lah](#):
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> We are not talking about protests and riots. We are talking about discussions and disagreeing with one another

Protests and riots **are** _about_ disagreements.

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**Author:** ![Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuoliganar_madeveda/32/264682_2.png) [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuoliganar_Madeveda)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/114 "2021-04-01T17:07:31Z")

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Please link one post where someone is insulted I think this is a much smaller problem than you make it.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/115 "2021-04-01T17:07:48Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Ever seen a video of groups of protesters clashing with one another?

There are differences between face to face, and actual mob.

> **[Crowd psychology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowd_psychology)**
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> Crowd psychology (also mob psychology) is a branch of social psychology that deals with the ways in which the psychology of a crowd is different from the psychology of the individual persons who are in the crowd. The field of crowd psychology enquires into the behaviors and thought processes of both the individual members of the crowd and the crowd as a collective social entity. The behavior of a crowd is much influenced by deindividuation, a person's loss of responsibility, and the person's im...

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**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/116 "2021-04-01T17:08:11Z")

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> [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](#):
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> Discussing and disagreement is the very reason for most riots and protests.

Most riots and protests start with some law being passed or some government actions that people don’t thinks are just.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/117 "2021-04-01T17:08:11Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> There are differences between face to face, like with individuals and actual mob

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/4/8/748357c32d39679341da39c29fb753e4998819ff.jpeg "The ultimate Memri TV debate compilation (HQ)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vqkzFpKYs)

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/118 "2021-04-01T17:08:33Z")

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stop tat

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/119 "2021-04-01T17:10:10Z")

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The religious beliefs plus position and perceived invulnerability of individual, depending how illusionary, can be also taken into account.

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**Author:** ![Ka\_lah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ka_lah/32/265557_2.png) [@Ka\_lah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ka_lah)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/120 "2021-04-01T17:10:22Z")

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> [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](#):
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> Please link one post where someone is insulted

I’m not going to. If you’re not new to the forum here you should know what I allude to.

> [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](#):
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> I think this is a much smaller problem than you make it

I’m not saying it’s a problem. I bring up the issue for discussion. That is all.

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