# This forum is brutal

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 1, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437 "2021-04-01T14:58:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/162 "2021-04-01T17:53:16Z")

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I had the same experience when I joined, not too long ago: [Not very inviting](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/not-very-inviting/293741)

I solved this by blocking each and any negative Andy, troll, screeching spam poster or anyone else with a low signal to noise ratio. I do the same with several threads, if it turns into a ■■■■ show I’ll just mute that thread so I never have to see it again so the negative vibes won’t affect me. It’s an ongoing process.

It’s fine and even good to disagree and have a strong discussion but I’m in no way going to let negative folks affect my chill. If something turns into a back and forth I’ll just stop bothering or posting, once I stated my views on something I’ll leave it at that and if they’re so eager to get the last reply in then I wish them GL with that.

Block out the bad vibes.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/163 "2021-04-01T17:54:11Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> But now we have to discuss ‘what is an insult’. People will always skirt across the line whilst pretending to be innocent.

But no, an insult is very clearly defined : it’s a negative term that you associate to someone.  
Does not need to be intentional.  
What we can argue about is “what is negative”. And then it’s very clear : if I disagree with you and make personal attacks that convey a judgement, then it’s an insult. (you can make personal attacks that are not insulting, for example claiming that your need to argue about the topic comes from reason X or Y)

The moment a person makes a personal attack in a discussion (or an insult), then he acknowledges he has lost the discussion, because he admits he has no argument on the topic and needs to go off topic.

So yes, insults (and personal attacks) prevent by definition a discussion. Unless of course the topic is about insults ^^ . Also this assumes the topic was still a discussion : if you start insulting me or making personal attack, you already admitted defeat and thus I can insult you back since I already won the discussion.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/164 "2021-04-01T17:57:05Z")

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> [@Ka\_lah](#):
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> Are you all rivals in the game?

No we just wish we were playing a game that actually could cater that.

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**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/165 "2021-04-01T17:58:39Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> since I already won the discussion

Different people, different goals but to me it’s not about “winning” a discussion. It’s about exchanging information, views and perhaps come to a consensus.

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**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/166 "2021-04-01T18:00:36Z")

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Sometimes the divide is too great to get a consensus.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/167 "2021-04-01T18:01:31Z")

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Do people ever reach a consensus anymore? Seems like an old way of thinking.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/168 "2021-04-01T18:03:16Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Do people ever reach a consensus anymore? Seems like an old way of thinking.

yeah i live in my bubble and hate people in the other bubble  
get on with the times

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/169 "2021-04-01T18:03:16Z")

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> [@Xanthellus](#):
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> Different people, different goals but to me it’s not about “winning” a discussion. It’s about exchanging information, views and perhaps come to a consensus.

Indeed for most people, but not for the people who start insulting.

For those people, it’s only about making aggressive assessment about people with a different opinion.  
Yes, that’s also called harassment.

Some people may think it makes a better man of themselves to start insulting other. Some people may believe it’s funny.  
Fact is, some people are insulting whenever someone disagrees with them. and/or making personal attacks.

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**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/170 "2021-04-01T18:03:21Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Do people ever reach a consensus anymore

The ones who aren’t capable of that, or aren’t even willing to try, are not worth one’s time to interact with.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/171 "2021-04-01T18:03:44Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Do people ever reach a consensus anymore? Seems like an old way of thinking.

We reached a consensus that we hate eachother. That’s something ?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/172 "2021-04-01T18:03:52Z")

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Give me your lunch money.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/173 "2021-04-01T18:04:22Z")

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I love you Anderson, you are just too stubborn to accept it.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/174 "2021-04-01T18:04:51Z")

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I hate you, was told it’s the other side of the love coin.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/175 "2021-04-01T18:05:04Z")

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Close enough.

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**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/176 "2021-04-01T18:05:15Z")

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Yes most threads reach a consensus, we all agree that the threads been locked by the forum mods.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/177 "2021-04-01T18:08:11Z")

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they are pretending fun is allowed just because she is new

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/178 "2021-04-01T18:08:13Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> I remember when someone said i ‘_ **need** hugs_’. That’s not what most people would call an insult even though that’s what it really is.

Not sure if you were referencing my exchange with @tutucox_Khamsi or not. Probably not.

Anyway, the post I made that sparked the “hugs” response, was basically a parody of an exchange between some individuals in the thread it was posted in. Tutucox gave me that response, which I in no way interpreted as an insult, just pure banter and light humor. Some people don’t take these forums too serious…

That being said, I have absolutely no idea what is going on in this behemoth of a thread and I just jumped in, cause I saw my name in an image.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/179 "2021-04-01T18:09:17Z")

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> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> That being said, I have absolutely no idea what is going on in this behemoth of a thread and I just jumped in, cause I saw my name in a image.

the topic is all about how fabulous your hair is

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/180 "2021-04-01T18:10:19Z")

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I wish. Not everyone appreciates good fashion sense like you, Tutu.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-forum-is-brutal/303437/181 "2021-04-01T18:10:42Z")

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