# This in-game advertisement is shameful, CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 22, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303 "2021-06-22T16:06:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/41 "2021-06-22T23:40:21Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Now maybe this offer is meant to be for those who don’t have such support How can that be? CCP has been going after solo players for a few years now so how can anyone claim their sales tactics is meant for players who have no support ( meaning solo players )? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/42 "2021-06-23T00:18:41Z")
It’s really just one possible motivation behind the wording behind offer. We already have one person referring to it as a ‘solution’. So maybe there is the smallest chance that there was the slightest notion of a tiny idea that if players were reminded that they could replace their losses using RL money, they may be more engaged by the game. Most likely however, it’s a shameless money grab deployed at a more emotional moment in the players game. ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/43 "2021-06-23T00:24:17Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > So maybe there is the smallest chance that there was the slightest notion of a tiny idea that if players were reminded that they could replace their losses using RL money, they may be more engaged by the game. That doesn’t make any sense ( not your post but what you explain ). How will a player be more engaged if he’s made to understand that each ship loss will mean money out of his bank account? I personally wouldn’t keep playing, I’d run from that notion. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Most likely however, it’s a shameless money grab deployed at a more emotional moment in the players game. Most likely it’s the case, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/44 "2021-06-23T00:32:15Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/e/d/0edd9edf5c553957cdbc36c465db8ce35d8bee41.jpeg) @Mike_Azariah @Brisc_Rubal @Suitonia ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/8/6/286fecc9dcc13b140f7763aa3a3f01e6bc7cce83.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/45 "2021-06-23T00:38:44Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/8/4/e84a426dacb83a34ee8d1259ee64268234ec43a0.jpeg) 🤭 🤣 _edit. I should have made the last line “Come back stranger & bitter!”_ ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/46 "2021-06-23T00:46:13Z")
Been yelling about it all day. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/47 "2021-06-23T00:50:46Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Been yelling about it all day. No need to yell, Brisc. Just pick up the phone and ask the Devs to quit their PvP against the players. CCP shouldn’t be playing EVE, they should develop it further and make sure things works properly. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/48 "2021-06-23T01:06:07Z")
My main issue, Brisc, is that you don’t have to be a role-player to see that in-game direct advertising breaks the “fourth wall”. You essentially will have the ‘R’ removed from this ‘RPG’. Second issue is that it is needlessly predatory marketing. For me it’s absolutely game breaking. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/49 "2021-06-23T01:12:29Z")
> [@Wanda\_Fayne](#): > > in-game direct advertising breaks the “fourth wall”. The “DING DONG! CCP something or other is now starting on our twitch channel” must drive you absolutely bananas then. Or “Cluster shut down in ten minutes”. Or many other fourth wall breakers. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/50 "2021-06-23T01:17:11Z")
> [@Wanda\_Fayne](#): > > My main issue, Brisc, is that you don’t have to be a role-player to see that in-game direct advertising breaks the “fourth wall”. You essentially will have the ‘R’ removed from this ‘RPG’. > > Second issue is that it is needlessly predatory marketing. > > For me it’s absolutely game breaking. Agreed 100%. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/51 "2021-06-23T01:23:07Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > The “DING DONG! CCP something or other is now starting on our twitch channel” must drive you absolutely bananas then. Or “Cluster shut down in ten minutes”. Or many other fourth wall breakers. > > Mr Epeen 🕶 No. Roleplayers use Twitch. It’s just a streaming platform. And they are in-game events happening with those notifications. And DT is a mechanical limit and necessary function to notify players of it. Timers are also inherent in Eve so mechanically it is not unlike in-game events. I see your arguments but disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Rovinia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rovinia/32/483428_2.png) [@Rovinia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rovinia)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/52 "2021-06-23T01:24:02Z")
This really triggers me. I have nothing against monetization with skins, etc. But this is just disgusting and cheap. And it worries me a lot. This is the kind of aggressive monetization only games on the end of their lifecycle do, to squeeze out the last bucks of their customer base before the game goes into maintenance mode. Get a grip, CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/53 "2021-06-23T01:34:18Z")
Fair enough. I was just curious where your “red line” was. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/54 "2021-06-23T01:38:00Z")
Happy cake day btw, glad you made it back to posting here. Sometimes you have a knack for pointing out the obvious to the oblivious 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kimsemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kimsemus/32/506322_2.png) [@Kimsemus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kimsemus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/55 "2021-06-23T02:32:24Z")
I’m really glad this thread took off and that CSM members are aware. We need to all help keep CCP accountable to the community so they can continue to make the game we love that attracts more fresh blood, not blows their legs off out of the gate with predatory transaction advertisements. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/56 "2021-06-23T03:38:28Z")
You have to admit it’s the most honest advertisement this game ever had. ---
**Author:** ![Kal\_Mir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kal_mir/32/272328_2.png) [@Kal\_Mir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kal_Mir)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/57 "2021-06-23T05:44:01Z")
I still do not understand why they put ads in game that players have to pay for. ---
**Author:** ![Tina\_Sturnett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tina_sturnett/32/275995_2.png) [@Tina\_Sturnett](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tina_Sturnett)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/58 "2021-06-23T05:56:23Z")
Cant wait for the new deployable that displays real world ads in the system and pays isk for watching them lol ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/59 "2021-06-23T06:04:17Z")
> [@Tina\_Sturnett](#): > > real world ads They already had Quafe at fanfest. You could see the Quafe ads in game as a real world ad for a product that is not available now. [//live.staticflickr.com/7122/7009529773\_556c05144b\_b.jpg](https://live.staticflickr.com/7122/7009529773_556c05144b_b.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rovinia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rovinia/32/483428_2.png) [@Rovinia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rovinia)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303/60 "2021-06-23T07:32:02Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Quafe ads in game as a real world ad for a product that is not available now. Would not go that far, it was just a marketing gag at fanfest. It was never intended to make quafe a commercial product you can buy in stores, etc. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-in-game-advertisement-is-shameful-ccp/317303.md?page=4)