# This is a game, but some misunderstandings are really angry **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [June 5, 2023, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230 "2023-06-05T11:43:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Justunen\_Yatolila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/justunen_yatolila/32/371701_2.png) [@Justunen\_Yatolila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Justunen_Yatolila)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/1 "2023-06-05T11:43:36Z")
I joined a company mainly composed of Westerners, and after getting along, I discovered a very interesting phenomenon. Most Westerners have no understanding of modern China, and misunderstandings and discrimination are common! What I want to say is that most of the reports you see in Western media are nonsense! If you want to understand the current China, come to China and see the reality! You can also learn how YouTube bloggers in China view China! > **[Barrett](https://www.youtube.com/@BarrettYT/videos)** > > Hey! Lee here, English born, living in China. > > Here, you'll find a bunch of videos diving into life in China. From opinion pieces, to food, to tech & infrastructure, and anything else that we find interesting enough to share. > > Don't miss out,... > **[Living in China](https://www.youtube.com/@JasonLivinginChina)** > > Regular videos on everything you need to know about living in China. > > Thanks! > Jason ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/2 "2023-06-05T11:52:12Z")
This thread gives the subject of CCP a whole new context. 🤭 :psyccp: ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/3 "2023-06-05T12:01:00Z")
Moved to [Out Of Pod Experience - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/communications/out-of-pod/14) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/4 "2023-06-05T12:03:02Z")
So you are saying the government HASNT radically changed the daily life of people living in Hong Kong since 1992, and that Cantonese are treated like equal citizens? ---
**Author:** ![Justunen\_Yatolila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/justunen_yatolila/32/371701_2.png) [@Justunen\_Yatolila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Justunen_Yatolila)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/5 "2023-06-05T12:05:19Z")
Media reports are not always true. If you have the opportunity to visit China ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/6 "2023-06-05T12:06:21Z")
I dont fancy visiting China. I fancy visiting Hong Kong. I notice your reply was evasive. At least thats a stereotype that seems to be holding up. ---
**Author:** ![Justunen\_Yatolila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/justunen_yatolila/32/371701_2.png) [@Justunen\_Yatolila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Justunen_Yatolila)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/7 "2023-06-05T12:08:36Z")
Sincerely, if you have the opportunity to come to China, don’t trust the media too much ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/8 "2023-06-05T12:09:17Z")
> [@Justunen\_Yatolila](#): > > Most Westerners have no understanding of modern China Good point, although not exactly startling. I doubt the average Chinese has a very good understanding of modern “westerners” either… particularly since the vast majority of them would strongly reject being identified as like “those _other_ westerners over in _that_ country”. No more than a metropolitan businessman from Shanghai would identify with a farmer from Xinjiang or a hardline Beijing Party member. Nobody really knows what other people are like, sometimes not even those close to them. That’s why they develop stereotypes to have some notion of what the “us vs them” dynamic might contain. Please do keep up any efforts to spread understanding and increased communication, the world needs a lot more of it. However I strongly suspect you’ll get more buy-in from people if you don’t start off in your first paragraph stating “you people don’t understand and you’re full of nonsense!”. That rarely encourages minds to open. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/9 "2023-06-05T12:09:22Z")
If I ever visit China, you bet I wont trust the media there. ---
**Author:** ![Justunen\_Yatolila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/justunen_yatolila/32/371701_2.png) [@Justunen\_Yatolila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Justunen_Yatolila)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/10 "2023-06-05T12:15:20Z")
For most Westerners, they actually don’t care about China. What I want to say is that if you don’t know a country and haven’t been there before, don’t make statements that are offensive, especially insulting a nation! Only through communication can we understand each other ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/11 "2023-06-05T12:25:48Z")
> [@Justunen\_Yatolila](#): > > don’t make statements that are offensive, especially insulting a nation! Okay, good advice. In that case, I’ll do my best to avoid accusing Chinese people of making offensive statements about countries in the West they haven’t been too, or insulting them by telling them they’re full of nonsense for not completely understanding a country on the other side of the planet that’s only recently begun to open itself to the outside world. It would probably help my own understanding if you gave an example of the nonsense statements being made in Western media that are insulting and incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Noukie\_Phoria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noukie_phoria/32/373314_2.png) [@Noukie\_Phoria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noukie_Phoria)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/12 "2023-06-05T12:29:22Z")
I love Sweet’n’Sour chiken wid Fried Rice. 😋 Who was General Tsao anyway? One time I askd fer Fried Rice & she brought me French Fries 😄 That was so cute I let it go & had Sweet’n’Sour chiken with French Fries, everyone lookin at me like I’m crazy 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Justunen\_Yatolila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/justunen_yatolila/32/371701_2.png) [@Justunen\_Yatolila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Justunen_Yatolila)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/13 "2023-06-05T12:32:48Z")
Chinese restaurants abroad cater to local tastes and are not the same as those in China ---
**Author:** ![Noukie\_Phoria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noukie_phoria/32/373314_2.png) [@Noukie\_Phoria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noukie_Phoria)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/14 "2023-06-05T12:45:34Z")
> [@Justunen\_Yatolila](#): > > not the same as those in China If yu dont hav Sweet’n’Sour chiken in China I will not be tourist ther. 😄 Am very impressed wid Chinese know-how. And beautiful temples. 😍 ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/15 "2023-06-05T13:15:51Z")
My grandmother fled mainland China as the Chinese Communist party took over Shanghai during the second part of the Civil War after having suffered Japanese occupation during World War 2. No thanks. Going back never seemed appealing. ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/16 "2023-06-05T17:31:24Z")
> [@Justunen\_Yatolila](#): > > especially insulting a nation! Isn’t that a forte of China? Surely, Vietnam and the Philippines can tell a number of stories about insulting, ignorant and discriminating imperialism from China. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Apo\_Bong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apo_bong/32/512751_2.png) [@Apo\_Bong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apo_Bong)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/17 "2023-06-05T17:41:19Z")
> **[Uyghur genocide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide)** > > The Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang that is often characterized as genocide. Beginning in 2014, the Chinese government, under the administration of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) General Secretary Xi Jinping, incarcerated more than an estimated one million Turkic Muslims without any legal process in internment camps. Operations from 2016 to 2021 were led by Xinjiang CCP Secret Governm... ---
**Author:** ![Hadrian\_Tobran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hadrian_tobran/32/373681_2.png) [@Hadrian\_Tobran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hadrian_Tobran)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/18 "2023-06-05T18:07:55Z")
The CCP is the most abusive government of this generation. The Tiananmen square massacre happened. Your government is currently committing genocide against a minority group within China and selling their organs. Serpetza on YouTube accurately describes what life in China is like as an immigrant. Most of them had to leave because of the disgusting government abuse. Not like the ones you show, the ones the CCP pays to lie and fool the rest of the world. Not all Chinese are bad people but anyone of any nationality that supports the CCP is gross. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/19 "2023-06-05T18:24:49Z")
Aw man, now I have to support the anti-Imperials. Thanks Adrain ☚ ---
**Author:** ![Justunen\_Yatolila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/justunen_yatolila/32/371701_2.png) [@Justunen\_Yatolila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Justunen_Yatolila)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230/21 "2023-06-05T23:06:00Z")
That’s why you know China so well, because the media you read every day and how many reports related to China are positive? [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-a-game-but-some-misunderstandings-are-really-angry/408230.md?page=2)