# This is Abuse, and ccp has made eve pay to win. Players should be outraged and know about these issues

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 21, 2019, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073 "2019-04-21T08:56:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/81 "2019-04-21T14:19:09Z")

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> [@Kinky\_Kunt](#):
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> All in all, thank you, and thanks all your corp mates that dismantled this ■■■■■■■■ alliance, it could’ve costed billions to each player if you didn’t intervene, cheers mate.

As you appear to be an unfortunate bystander in this… situation, I’d like to also direct your attention here:

> [@How to get more people to play eve](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/1271):
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> If you know any good members that have been kicked throw them my way, were not a perfect corp but the focus is more on having fun and improvement for pvp; i dont recall ever asking members for anything. The main difference between us and any other newbro group is we have less rules… well we have none really… and that any training is more along the lines of scouting, tackling and small gang/solo pvp. Would be a shame if they were to quit altogether.

I don’t generally vouch for people on teh forums, but when I do, it’s someone I’ve flown with.

Best of luck moving forward.

Regards,  
Cypr3ss.

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**Author:** ![Barakas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barakas/32/130727_2.png) [@Barakas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barakas)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/82 "2019-04-21T14:20:48Z")

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💀🍿👽🍿🤡🍿

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/83 "2019-04-21T14:23:46Z")

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> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> I see I posted in the wrong thread:
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> [How to get more people to play eve - #1260 by Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/1260)
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> Didn’t see this one. It’s on fire.

But yeah, it’s the PvP community that are hurting eve… 🤔

Also, @Noori_Naarian you have really gone off the rails. Go talk to someone IRL and take a break from eve. Honestly, every time I’ve read something from you, you’ve sounded increasingly deranged.

We’ve had our arguments in here and our differences. We will never agree on game issues, since we see the game differently. I’m not saying this to offend you or something. I’m just saying, that maybe a small break would be good for your own health. Ones own health is more important than some space pixels after all.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/84 "2019-04-21T14:23:49Z")

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> **I declare war on ccp**

Such a drama-queen

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/85 "2019-04-21T14:39:35Z")

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As the defenders, CCP should make the war open to allies.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/8/283c595c22acd5f5acbffbe99d14dd8bb45d09b1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/86 "2019-04-21T14:56:20Z")

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> [@Noori\_Naarian](#):
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> With any hope, i will force the change, or bring about the end of this game, and its company.

Disgusting carebearism distilled down to it’s base element.

> [@Noori\_Naarian](#):
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> As a result of those positions, some of the members of the community followed me into game, and started attacking assets, that a group of happy, proud miners had just accomplished completing.

The New Order officially endorses this product or service.

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**Author:** ![Dogma706\_Rachimiel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogma706_rachimiel/32/130104_2.png) [@Dogma706\_Rachimiel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogma706_Rachimiel)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/87 "2019-04-21T14:57:17Z")

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So this is eve’s crazy snowflake?

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**Author:** ![Dogma706\_Rachimiel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogma706_rachimiel/32/130104_2.png) [@Dogma706\_Rachimiel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogma706_Rachimiel)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/88 "2019-04-21T14:59:19Z")

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I havent bothered to play this game in a while but might come back just to help people blow up this noori dude

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/89 "2019-04-21T15:08:56Z")

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> [@Dogma706\_Rachimiel](#):
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> eve’s crazy snowflake

Give it a month or so and another will appear to challenge them for the title.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/90 "2019-04-21T15:12:11Z")

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> **[EVE System \> Channel MOTD:](https://pastebin.com/uY7W8mK3)**
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> Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

“He Deka” apparently is Naari as well.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/e/ceb85cca997cdef20589ad59a9e39a98652406d3.png)

> He Deka \> like i cant wait to show my 2003 power plays  
> He Deka \> im also running for csm  
> He Deka \> \<url=[https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-naari-naarian/151554/17&gt;https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-naari-naarian/151554/17&lt;/url&gt](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-naari-naarian/151554/17&gt;https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-naari-naarian/151554/17&lt;/url&gt);

Edit: Okay, apparently he’s not. See posts below.

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**Author:** ![Ayyle\_Maokai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ayyle_maokai/32/290561_2.png) [@Ayyle\_Maokai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ayyle_Maokai)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/91 "2019-04-21T15:14:08Z")

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He deka isnt naari, he was impersonating naari to the shitty merc group he hired and sent them burning over 100 jumps in bowheads

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/92 "2019-04-21T15:14:30Z")

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How can you tell?

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**Author:** ![Ayyle\_Maokai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ayyle_maokai/32/290561_2.png) [@Ayyle\_Maokai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ayyle_Maokai)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/93 "2019-04-21T15:14:41Z")

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cause it was one of my corp members lmao

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/94 "2019-04-21T15:15:19Z")

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LOL!

Why would he do such a thing? 😃

Share your story, it’s gold! 😃

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/95 "2019-04-21T15:18:11Z")

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> 1. Nastasjjia \> ?
> 2. Nastasjjia \> Dude… I asked several times where the citadel is… thats 38 jumps from jorus…
> 3. He Deka \> sorry
> 4. He Deka \> i play the 2003 game

Gold… 🤣

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**Author:** ![Ayyle\_Maokai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ayyle_maokai/32/290561_2.png) [@Ayyle\_Maokai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ayyle_Maokai)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/96 "2019-04-21T15:18:21Z")

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we wanted to do the initial RF as soon as possible and the wardec didnt go live on our main corp until the next day so we did it on alpha toons

> **[zKillboard.com / Related Kills | Slays | 2019-04-20 08:00](https://zkillboard.com/related/30003798/201904200800/)**
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> A battle took place in Slays (Placid) involving 11 pilots who lost a total of 637,024,299.13 isk

the wardec with the merc groups were live though, so in order to avoid fighting them in our shitty alpha t1 comp he made them burn to random hisec systems 30 to 40 jumps apart to stall them while we did the rf.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/97 "2019-04-21T15:19:16Z")

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Damn! That’s brilliant!

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**Author:** ![Kinky\_Kunt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kinky_kunt/32/373839_2.png) [@Kinky\_Kunt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kinky_Kunt)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/98 "2019-04-21T15:29:09Z")

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Thanks a lot mate, I don’t think we lost many expensive ships since a bunch of us can’t fly them, but I’ll be bugging you for advise . 👌

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/99 "2019-04-21T16:08:06Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/100 "2019-04-21T16:08:31Z")

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Closed due to ranting and whole lot of other rules violations.

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