# This is Abuse, and ccp has made eve pay to win. Players should be outraged and know about these issues

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**Created:** [April 21, 2019, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073 "2019-04-21T08:56:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-abuse-and-ccp-has-made-eve-pay-to-win-players-should-be-outraged-and-know-about-these-issues/154073/54 "2019-04-21T11:31:25Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> I’d call the police on this guy.

The local Mental Health Unit may be more appropriate.

@Solstice_Projekt your forum fu appears to be broken.

> [@Game suggestions, mission system overhaul, newbro retention](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/game-suggestions-mission-system-overhaul-newbro-retention/143307/186):
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> The problem is they were right, and they made the position based on emotional positions, and i am making them based on design principles, its not the same. Btw, eve is not exactly in a health state at the moment, no matter how much cheer lead it is, its not. I am a null pvper, btw. The only thing in eve that is unique, is the massive blobs, and they are not good for the game, or the industry. Literally everything else is repeated across games. Ill make my game according to my timeframe, …

> [@CSM and CCP, stop screwing us over](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-and-ccp-stop-screwing-us-over/150783/103):
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> Abyssals have bad scaling. They are for vet players, and do not produce enough income for new players, and it will only get worse as the mats are seeded on the market. the over all design is heading in the right direction with the grouping and stuff, but they will eventually end up being useless missions because of ccp’s consistent refusal to do anything pve driven. As i said, this will continue until hilmar is fired, resigned, or by some magical chance, decides he is wrong. that is why i wro…

> [@Reason why I hate Eve's pvp, and its pvpers](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/reason-why-i-hate-eves-pvp-and-its-pvpers/141571/87):
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> Again, it would require you to track that entire fleet through the entire course of the battle. Do you fleet command? have you lead larger engagements, involving more then say 5 or 10 fleets? It may be possible to micromanage 2-3 fleets if you are really good at fcing, or you appoint someone to keep an eye on it, but after the battle starts, and targets get calling, you will get problems, get mentally exhausted for tracking multiple ship types across multiple fleets, and their locations. Now…

are where he posts about how Hilmar being given the boot will “cure” Eve.

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