# This is annoying

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 22, 2023, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272 "2023-06-22T09:59:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/22 "2023-06-22T15:18:06Z")

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These folk that sit off the stations popping easy FW targets. They turn tail and dock up the moment someone with balls and a ship that can take them on shows up.

They aren’t there for the pvps. They are there to pad their KB.

So play the game and give them what they don’t want.

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/23 "2023-06-22T15:20:35Z")

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Yeah, my very first thought if I would see such thing, and would be in FW … what is the hard counter to its fit, and then buy it, let him aggress in something like a hauler, dock, reship and kill it.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/24 "2023-06-22T16:27:16Z")

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This, right here. Bait him so he can’t dock up. Swap ships and reduce him to pixilated space scrap.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/25 "2023-06-22T16:34:44Z")

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Just let him agress something and give him a Bump with a 500MN Omen. Then lets see how he performs 30km outside of docking range.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/26 "2023-06-22T17:11:45Z")

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I thought you would be excited to have a potential war dec target sitting in a bling ship outside your home station, chance to show your mettle?

Likely does not have a structure down though, would have to log in to check.

As for the OP, get some friends and bait him, make sure you bump him

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/27 "2023-06-22T17:12:47Z")

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That’s rich, coming from you.

You don’t even play this game.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/28 "2023-06-22T17:13:52Z")

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Amarr is Destiny’s lurk spot, seems like an opportunity.

Still I like what this guy is doing, it is rather funny actually. The issue is that he will likely get to dock most of the time, docking games are a bit meh at times, still when you do get them it is a good feeling.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/29 "2023-06-22T17:16:05Z")

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Is she even in FW?

That being said, I do agree. Rattlesnake guy is into shenanigans and it’s funny. But what would be even more funny, and ironic, is if the OP actually took him out!

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/30 "2023-06-22T17:16:32Z")

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We can hope can’t we.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/31 "2023-06-22T17:35:53Z")

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> [@Tokamaru](#):
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> how do you play safe in a safe space if the “safe” space is messed up? I wand CCP to do smth about it so people like me — not willing to be engaged in PVP — also could play.

So you joined a faction warfare militia and now are complaining because someone from an opposing militia zapped you. Well…you are getting precisely what you chose to opt in for.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/32 "2023-06-22T18:22:05Z")

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I am 12 and what is this

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/516955_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/33 "2023-06-22T18:27:14Z")

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This looks like some stunt to try and make change and who would do such a stunt other than you!

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/34 "2023-06-22T21:15:14Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Is she even in FW?

I really wish that those boring old men who don’t even play the game anymore would stop constantly responding to my posts that aren’t directed at them.

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/35 "2023-06-22T22:20:30Z")

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> [@Tokamaru](#):
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> There’s a difference between pvp, fw pvp and being killed at the major friendly fw station because of the poor game mechanics.

What game mechanics here are “poor”? Enemy militias being able to shoot each other? Do you expect the Amarr navy to just snap their fingers and make his ship explode? You joined the military and sat on your ass right next to the enemy, and you expected him not to shoot you? And then you have the gall to ask for your stuff back from the GMs that you lost as a consequence of your poor decisions?

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**Author:** ![Aeryn\_Maricadie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aeryn_maricadie/32/516971_2.png) [@Aeryn\_Maricadie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aeryn_Maricadie)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/36 "2023-06-23T02:18:39Z")

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> [@Tokamaru](#):
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> It’s now I know he was a Minmat militia, then — wouldn’t even cross my mind this kind of nonsense could happen. Just a red-coloured criminal…

you can set your overview to differentiate, your fault for not doing so.

> [@Tokamaru](#):
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> I’ll wait a bit, then you might find out the answer to the question of what’s one of the reasons why people leave the game.

well the rest of us will still be here enjoying the game. Can I haz ur stuff?

> [@JT\_Krieger](#):
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> Well, you learned from that situation.

Did he though?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/37 "2023-06-23T03:00:11Z")

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So someone is killing players at a spawn point right after they emerge from blackout screen / session change, sounds to me like an exploit…

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/38 "2023-06-23T03:19:17Z")

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Let’s see how many people will take the bait. This will be good!

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/39 "2023-06-23T03:31:35Z")

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faction warfare corps are in a permanent war. dunno what you are complaining about, OP?

for moving stuff in high sec safely, i usually just make a courier contract and let someone else take the risk.

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**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/40 "2023-06-23T03:46:30Z")

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I agree that this is different than just “highsec PvP” and it’s not what Faction Warfare is about (securing lowsec systems). It’s downright stupid that an enemy Minmatar ship can sit in the very home system of Amarr, at the Emperor’s Family Station within a few AU’s reach of Empress’s throne and attack Amarr forces with impunity. That’s just ridiculous and should not be a thing. That’s like the Taliban sitting in a truck outside the White House shooting at White House staff and the only defense is a guy throwing pebbles at the Taliban’s truck. The fact that a whole station doesn’t have the firepower to deter a single battleship is silly in itself. The NPC Amarr Navy ships should be on grid attacking this guy. There are multiple NPC titans of the royal guard in that system too if I recall.

As for being reimbursed? Ha!

Sounds like you just sat there and waited to be popped. To then be podded, by a battleship no less, makes you look just as silly as the situation. I agree that the situation is dumb, but you’re not fairing too much better on that front from what you’ve told us. If I had 600M implants I wouldn’t be risking them to get a better look at a hostile pilot. Is this a joke post?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-annoying/410272/41 "2023-06-23T04:04:46Z")

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Let’s not and say we did. As per the normal MO of the DMC, he

1. didn’t read the post
2. failed to take in the meaning
3. made up ■■■■ and
4. trying to troll

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