# This is why ganked freighter pilots deserve zero sympathy

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [April 8, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630 "2018-04-08T22:54:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/288 "2018-05-14T19:50:50Z")

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Today’s fat, juicy whale worth 28 BILLION ISK…

> **[Rhea | Aire Mining | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/69970406/)**
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> Aire Mining (Deep Core Mining Inc.) lost their Rhea in Niarja (Domain). Final Blow by Yankov Fang (Shooting Blues Everyday) flying in a Purifier. Total Value: 26,792,588,509.73 ISK

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/289 "2018-05-14T20:35:31Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/f/af6fdf489bf5350daaccb63fa6cf8c0eb1fdaeee.jpg)

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/290 "2018-05-14T20:41:15Z")

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Followed by this genius with absolutely no modules whatsoever fitted…

> **[Providence | Khleo | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/69972523/)**
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> Khleo (APIS MELLIFERA) lost their Providence in Niarja (Domain). Final Blow by Lutz Fizzleblade (Exploration Enterprises) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 13,811,359,526.14 ISK

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/291 "2018-05-14T20:43:54Z")

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> [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](#):
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> New character or new player?

Either, doesn’t matter which, because overwhelmingly Freighters are flown by older characters:

> [@Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/22):
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> I agree with you on this. Despite [CCP explicitly calling it out as not an exploit](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/204873262-Known-Declared-Exploits), there are many people that either (1) haven’t read the exploits and misconceptions list, so don’t understand CCP’s position, or (2) disagree with CCP’s view and so claim it’s just crappy design, incompetence or a bad game. As to ganking itself, in the [Burn Jita thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burn-jita/60736/17) there was a claim we see often, that gankers target new players, so yesterday I took a look at the average age of Freighter/Bowhead/Orca pilots th…

The youngest character in the 6000 killmails looked at in that analysis was 23 hours old - injected directly into flying a freighter. Not likely a new player.

However, the kills back to Jan 2016 show that Freighters are flown by characters that have been in the game long enough for their owner to know better than to fly the way they did.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/292 "2018-05-15T02:56:03Z")

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Gankers reaction upon jumping into Uedama or Niarja…

![whales](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/6/865d317a35d45668107e33a416b05ba22a216b57.gif)

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/293 "2018-05-20T13:13:25Z")

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And here we have yet another genius, flying an untanked, cargo expanded, blinged-out JF to the tune of a 44 BILLION ISK loss…

> **[Rhea | Matrix 101 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70063929/)**
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> Matrix 101 (Royal Amarr Institute) lost their Rhea in Perimeter (The Forge). Final Blow by Ariku Orenuk (The Scope) flying in a Talos. Total Value: 43,748,867,070.19 ISK

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/294 "2018-05-20T16:47:15Z")

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And two more poor untanked bastages, looking like they are trying to move their entire game inventory, racking up a combined 33 BILLION ISK loss…

> **[Charon | stranik stark | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70085136/)**
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> stranik stark (Caldari Provisions) lost their Charon in Perimeter (The Forge). Final Blow by dAbOsSlAdY77 (KarmaFleet) flying in a Purifier. Total Value: 18,942,978,447.63 ISK

> **[Charon | Sevetar | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70082297/)**
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> Sevetar (League of Ordinary Frogs) lost their Charon in Niarja (Domain). Final Blow by Emily Rackner (Advanced Tear Harvesting V) flying in a Purifier. Total Value: 12,368,679,865.02 ISK

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/295 "2018-05-21T02:01:04Z")

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I know it’s not a freighter, but the same rules apply, and it’s not very often you see a Golem getting ganked in high sec. Having said that, this guy deserved it. Tons of bling. All gank, no tank. It took a surprisingly small amount of players to gank it. Hell, my Skiff would have withstood that…

> **[Golem | Jeka Amruk | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70099571/)**
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> Jeka Amruk (63Reg-TLT) lost their Golem in Jita (The Forge). Final Blow by Basic Black Bitch (SUNDERING) flying in a Purifier. Total Value: 4,811,125,558.89 ISK

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**Author:** ![Magnus\_Witchspace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magnus_witchspace/32/410729_2.png) [@Magnus\_Witchspace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magnus_Witchspace)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/296 "2018-05-21T10:03:46Z")

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I fly a Golem and I can confirm that fit is piss weak. Only 5 modules he has match mine. How can you spend an extra 2b to reduce both tank and ehp?

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/297 "2018-05-25T01:58:49Z")

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LOL, I don’t even know where to start with this one. A poorly tanked T1 industrial carrying 10 BILLION ISK in cargo…

> **[Tayra | William Tsukaya | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70163670/)**
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> William Tsukaya (Naval Defence Operations) lost their Tayra in Madirmilire (Domain). Final Blow by May Mather (Advanced Suicide Comrades) flying in a Gnosis. Total Value: 10,624,015,922.28 ISK

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**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/298 "2018-05-25T02:28:25Z")

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Madirmilire!? There’s his first mistake. Tayra is his second. 2 runs in a Crane takes less time than one run in a Tayra… or close enough. I haven’t done the math. Plus… cloak.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/299 "2018-05-25T07:41:15Z")

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This has become a shaming thread.

> [@](#):
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> **9. Use of kill reports & chatlogs to troll & flame is prohibited.**  
> Pilots are permitted to post chatlogs and kill reports on the EVE Online forums if it adds to and is relevant to ongoing discussion, however this may not be done to flame, troll, insult, **shame** or bait other corporations other pilots.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/300 "2018-05-25T12:21:27Z")

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What do you mean has become? It started as one, and apparently it’s not a problem because it now has almost 300 replies. Think of it as a PSA of what not to do when transporting freight.

This thread complies with the “relevant to the ongoing discussion” part of the requirement. And I’m not shaming individual pilots, I’m shaming ALL terrible and/or lazy freighter pilots in general…

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/301 "2018-05-25T23:27:57Z")

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I must say, this is one of the most deserving ganks I’ve ever seen in my 12 years of playing EVE. 5.2 BILLION ISK worth of cargo in a minimally tanked Orca, along with a Praxis, two Hulks, and about 100+ skins and clothing…

> **[Orca | Carrie Nightingale | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70175985/)**
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> Carrie Nightingale (Nightingale Explorations) lost their Orca in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Josh Kusion (KUSION SPECIAL TEAM) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 5,081,010,900.78 ISK

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/302 "2018-05-26T14:37:12Z")

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Again, I’m at a loss for words. 8 BILLION ISK worth of cargo in a piss poor tanked Orca…

> **[Orca | Alex VD | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70193356/)**
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> Alex VD (Deep Core Mining Inc.) lost their Orca in Niarja (Domain). Final Blow by Erich Fizzleblade (Shooting Blues Everyday) flying in a Purifier. Total Value: 7,518,230,908.19 ISK

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**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/303 "2018-05-26T16:16:23Z")

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Thanks for posting those. Makes me feel better bout my ■■■■ fit Orca loss. Never Again!

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**Author:** ![Elyham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elyham/32/179528_2.png) [@Elyham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elyham)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/304 "2018-05-30T00:53:07Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> Again, I’m at a loss for words. 8 BILLION ISK worth of cargo in a piss poor tanked Orca…
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> [Orca | Alex VD | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70193356/)

This must be the new CODE approved fit. I actually had a chuckle the other day when my agent accidentally gave me the same mission as someone else and I found myself staring at an orca running L4 missions and mining said mission at same time with split drones.

🙄

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/305 "2018-05-30T05:55:41Z")

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I know at least one person who PvPs in an Orca. The last buff was so over the top that this is just wrecking everything now if fitted correctly.

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**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/306 "2018-05-30T07:17:19Z")

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Kreig?

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**Author:** ![Hidden\_Markov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hidden_markov/32/260260_2.png) [@Hidden\_Markov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hidden_Markov)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/307 "2018-05-30T13:40:15Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> Again, I’m at a loss for words. 8 BILLION ISK worth of cargo in a piss poor tanked Orca…

And going to Niarja. Niarja has always been a “bad” system. Looking like it still is, eve never changes it seems lol.

In the past I tried to help haulers. Know the bad systems. Over tank like a mofo or take a covert hauler and shoot for ninjya in and out. Or jsut find another route. An extra say 10 jumps sucks no doubt. Sucks less than a gank though.

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