# This is why ganked freighter pilots deserve zero sympathy **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [April 8, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630 "2018-04-08T22:54:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/23 "2018-04-09T09:29:08Z")
wow you display such keen logic with your intelligent arguments god you are so needy are you crushing on my avatar or something ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/24 "2018-04-09T09:29:56Z")
Actually I think your avatar is fine, it is your brain that is not. Let me repeat: Bumping makes it too easy, I would change bumping and in return I would reduce EHP on freighters. Anyone with a brain can work out why, noob mongheads need not reply as they are too dumb to Eve… ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/25 "2018-04-09T09:36:32Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Anyone with a brain can work out why nope only a carebear could understand your logic and carebears arent known for their brainpower so that is a logical fallacy ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/26 "2018-04-09T09:38:44Z")
Why would you reduce the EHP of freighters further? Judging by all the kills that I see that is completely unnecessary to promote ganking and in a world without bumping. Not only bring gankers more ships than necessary for a gank, they also don’t care if the brought ships are overpowered and overly expensive for the target’s EHP values. Freighter EHP are not factor that influences ganking negatively. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/27 "2018-04-09T09:40:11Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > nope only a carebear could understand your logic and carebears arent known for their brainpower > > so that is a logical fallacy Your killboard ranks you as a raging carebear ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/28 "2018-04-09T09:41:20Z")
\*sips coffee\* ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/29 "2018-04-09T09:41:21Z")
your killboard ranks you as a nullbear who pvps using the playstyle they use for mining target rock hit f1 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/30 "2018-04-09T09:42:11Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > your killboard ranks you as a nullbear who pvps using the playstyle they use for mining > > target rock hit f1 That is why I like the Gila, assign drones and snore and watch the green happen, marvelous fun. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/31 "2018-04-09T09:42:56Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > assign drones and snore > [@Dracvlad](#): > > marvelous fun yeah okay ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/32 "2018-04-09T09:44:17Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > yeah okay Oh and I forgot keep at range 1km, take booster and turn AB on. It is always a little odd to see that some people can screw even this up…, and don’t talk to me about people who can’t align… ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/33 "2018-04-09T09:45:30Z")
are we talking about pvp or mining you do know the difference right ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/34 "2018-04-09T09:47:27Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > are we talking about pvp or mining > > you do know the difference right You are talking about mining for some reason, I was talking about not even being a F1 monkey, please do keep up noob. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/35 "2018-04-09T09:48:23Z")
You two just made the list. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/36 "2018-04-09T09:50:04Z")
im talking about mining because your described playstyle is equivalent to a mining playstyle target rock hit f1 orbit 1km so you dont get bumped stay aligned assign drones to rorq or w/e you use ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/37 "2018-04-09T09:51:07Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > im talking about mining because your described playstyle is equivalent to a mining playstyle > > target rock > > hit f1 > > orbit 1km so you dont get bumped > > stay aligned > > assign drones to rorq or w/e you use Thank you for educating me, sounds like bumping, I really appreciate your input. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/38 "2018-04-09T09:51:07Z")
what is this ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/39 "2018-04-09T09:51:35Z")
i wouldnt know i dont do bumping but i know it takes a bit more skill than mining ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/40 "2018-04-09T09:52:02Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > i wouldnt know i dont do bumping but i know it takes a bit more skill than mining You should try mining when someone is trying to bump you… ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/41 "2018-04-09T09:53:49Z")
if i was a miner i wouldnt get bumped because im not a dummy ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/42 "2018-04-09T09:55:55Z")
> [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > Why would you reduce the EHP of freighters further? It wouldn’t so much be further. They received an increase in EHP most recently, with the rebalance of the damage control, where resistances were added to all ships, including freighters, while the bonus of the damage control itself was reduced. So freighters received an EHP increase: > **[\[March\] Damage Control Tiericide - Upcoming Feature and Change Feedback...](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/6334494/)** > > EVE allows you to discover, explore and dominate an amazing science fiction universe while you fight, trade, form corporations and alliances with other players. Previous to that, freighters were balanced in 2014 so they actually had fitting options, allowing much larger tank than was previously possible also: > **[Ship and Module Balancing in Kronos | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/the-meaning-of-life-the-universe-and-everything)** > > The Meaning of Life, the Universe and Everything Ship and Module Balancing in Kronos   Greetings and salutations gallant capsuleers. This is CCP Fozzie bringing you another in our continuous series of balance summary dev blogs. For the Kronos... This also included an increase in base EHP: > **[\[Kronos\] Freighters and Jump Freighters Rebalance \[Updated\] - Player...](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/345280)** > > EVE allows you to discover, explore and dominate an amazing science fiction universe while you fight, trade, form corporations and alliances with other players. So the last 2 direct changes to freighters have provided significant potential increases in EHP, one of them a straight passive buff to EHP, the other involving player choice (which is a good thing). As a result, the potential EHP of freighters has never been higher than it is now. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630.md?page=3)