# This is why ganked freighter pilots deserve zero sympathy **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [April 8, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630 "2018-04-08T22:54:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/63 "2018-04-09T11:02:38Z")
My point is that gankers need to be ready to gank to get a target. Everywhere CCP promotes and forces people into active and ready gameplay and passivity is shunned by CCP and gankers alike … yet they can be completely passive until a non-concordable tackler has locked down a target. I think this is extremely hypocritical. Technically, that would not even change a lot. As elaborated in other threads the gankers would be notified of an incoming whale by their scanners on Jita undock as well as on the way from Jita (or Amarr, Dodi, Ignoitton, Nonni, etc) well before the target arrives at the gank point. That gives them more than enough time to get ready. Bumping is not necessary. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/64 "2018-04-09T11:03:14Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I already de-railed this thread with my little joust with a very triggered Kathy Newman i dont even know who that is but it doesnt change the fact you have done no research and have no argument you lost an argument to a noob monghead and you cant even fight back because youre scared sol might gank you lmao ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/65 "2018-04-09T11:06:08Z")
This is not about freighters at all. This is, just like all the other threads, about the hateboner people have against suicide ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/66 "2018-04-09T11:06:52Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > because youre scared sol might gank you lmao I really like how you just take it and believe it as if it was true. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/67 "2018-04-09T11:07:29Z")
well he did say something to that effect > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Sol is giving me a good verbal lashing for engaging with you on Discord, and sent me a cease and desist, otherwise I will make the Salvos list, he just crushed me totally. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/68 "2018-04-09T11:08:44Z")
Yes, he did… and you ate it, with zero second thoughts about it. The same is valid for everything else: Not a single second thought. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/69 "2018-04-09T11:10:40Z")
is it something worth giving a second thought are you trying to make a point ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/70 "2018-04-09T11:11:04Z")
Yes, I am. Try figuring it out. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/71 "2018-04-09T11:13:02Z")
theres nothing to figure out he showed hostility i reacted and for some reason you think you have a say in this argument im not even sure if youre trying to make veiled threats towards me or just talking nonsense either way it means nothing to me ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/72 "2018-04-09T11:15:27Z")
Oh, there is. Really, just because you can not “see” something does not mean it is not there. Have you tried spending time on thinking, instead of assuming that when nothing immediately pops up in your head, it means there must be nothing there? ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/73 "2018-04-09T11:16:58Z")
what is this detective agency 101 if you have something to say then say it ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/74 "2018-04-09T11:17:04Z")
> [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > My point is that gankers need to be ready to gank to get a target. Everywhere CCP promotes and forces people into active and ready gameplay and passivity is shunned by CCP and gankers alike … yet they can be completely passive until a non-concordable tackler has locked down a target. I think this is extremely hypocritical. That is my point. > [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > Technically, that would not even change a lot. As elaborated in other threads the gankers would be notified of an incoming whale by their scanners on Jita undock as well as on the way from Jita (or Amarr, Dodi, Ignoitton, Nonni, etc) well before the target arrives at the gank point. That gives them more than enough time to get ready. Bumping is not necessary. 🙂 So leave it as it is, really easy for them, because they will be able to do it anyway, no. I am perfectly happy with suicide ganking as gameplay and have posted continuously on that basis, but I think that bumping makes it too easy and more difficult to counter. ---
**Author:** ![Lyse\_BoloChews](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lyse_bolochews/32/61787_2.png) [@Lyse\_BoloChews](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lyse_BoloChews)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/75 "2018-04-09T11:17:17Z")
You know the jfs are probed and then warped to right? Jump freighters jump out when bumped. But keep whining ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/76 "2018-04-09T11:18:23Z")
So you admit that you do not think about posts? Okay. vOv ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/77 "2018-04-09T11:23:20Z")
so you have nothing to actually say okay ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/78 "2018-04-09T11:23:31Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > So leave it as it is, really easy for them, because they will be able to do it anyway, no. I am not against suicide ganking either. All I am annoyed with is the bumping. If they want to gank me, they should be ready when they get me; just like I am, in their world view, supposed to be ready all the time to get ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/79 "2018-04-09T11:26:48Z")
You are correct from the perspective of someone who has proven, all by himself, that he does not think. Thank you. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/80 "2018-04-09T11:27:13Z")
> [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > I am not against suicide ganking either. All I am annoyed with is the bumping. As I said you are intelligent, I think bumping makes it too easy, I am not so much annoyed with it, but despise it as a naff mechanic. > [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > If they want to gank me, they should be ready when they get me; just like I am, in their world view, supposed to be ready all the time to get ganked. Yes we are in agreement, but there are more tactical counter play options without bumping. I am sure you will work it out. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/81 "2018-04-09T11:30:38Z")
are you sure im the one who doesnt think you always were quick to lecture people about their own inadequacies percieved in your mind ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-why-ganked-freighter-pilots-deserve-zero-sympathy/68630/82 "2018-04-09T11:52:20Z")
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