# This Week in EVE #169 (9 - 15 September) **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [September 15, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774 "2017-09-15T15:45:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DrButterfly\_PHD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drbutterfly_phd/32/18797_2.png) [@DrButterfly\_PHD](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrButterfly_PHD)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/21 "2017-09-15T18:45:31Z")
CCPleeeeeeease!!! ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/22 "2017-09-15T18:53:43Z")
With the multiple pilot training offer, do we get certificates that we can keep for later (or sell)? Or are they applied automatically upon purchase? ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Phantom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_phantom/32/11746_2.png) [@CCP\_Phantom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Phantom)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/23 "2017-09-15T18:56:24Z")
> [@Kaivarian\_Coste](#): > > With the multiple pilot training offer, do we get certificates that we can keep for later (or sell)? Or are they applied automatically upon purchase? It is activated automatically, you won’t receive a certificate for late use or for in-game trading. ---
**Author:** ![Yoshi\_Tadaruwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yoshi_tadaruwa/32/502036_2.png) [@Yoshi\_Tadaruwa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yoshi_Tadaruwa)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/24 "2017-09-15T20:10:10Z")
Thank you CCP for the work that you put into EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Adam\_McSoulless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adam_mcsoulless/32/24720_2.png) [@Adam\_McSoulless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adam_McSoulless)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/25 "2017-09-15T20:11:10Z")
Do you know if more logs like the Mining Log are in the works? I personally love data and will find that very useful for both me and my corp. I am curious if there may be a Loot-Log available at some point to track what loot we drag out of dead things. Like I said, I love data and numbers and would love to take a peek at something like that! ---
**Author:** ![Krima\_Sumyungi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/krima_sumyungi/32/496692_2.png) [@Krima\_Sumyungi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Krima_Sumyungi)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/26 "2017-09-15T22:33:23Z")
> [@DrButterfly\_PHD](#): > > [How EVE Players Pulled Off The Biggest Betrayal In Its History](https://kotaku.com/how-eve-players-pulled-off-the-biggest-betrayal-in-its-1806168400) That article is a good example of why CSM should be disbanded and CCP developers need to stick to developing and away from ingame politics. ---
**Author:** ![Jenne\_Wain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenne_wain/32/71483_2.png) [@Jenne\_Wain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenne_Wain)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/27 "2017-09-15T22:48:46Z")
Thanks for the additional detail. I assume that this also means that we need to purchase the MCT through the link and we are _not_ able to use PLEX though the NES, is that correct? ---
**Author:** ![Xenos\_Monith\_Maulerant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xenos_monith_maulerant/32/352087_2.png) [@Xenos\_Monith\_Maulerant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xenos_Monith_Maulerant)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/28 "2017-09-15T22:51:39Z")
For the MCT, you should clearly state that ppl need to log into their Account Management and purchase the MTC with actual money to take advantage of the BOGO offer. I think there have been some that thought they could do this through the New Eden Store with plex. ---
**Author:** ![Jenne\_Wain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenne_wain/32/71483_2.png) [@Jenne\_Wain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenne_Wain)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/29 "2017-09-15T22:54:48Z")
> [@Xenos\_Monith\_Maulerant](#): > > For the MCT, you should clearly state that ppl need to log into their Account Management and purchase the MTC with actual money to take advantage of the BOGO offer. > > I think there have been some that thought they could do this through the New Eden Store with plex. Yep, that is essentially my question. I believe this is the case, but hoping CCP can confirm. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/30 "2017-09-16T01:53:30Z")
I don’t always read it fully or click every single link, but I always at least open TWIE and give it a skim over. Always appreciated, @CCP_Phantom! ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/31 "2017-09-16T01:58:57Z")
> [@Adam\_McSoulless](#): > > Do you know if more logs like the Mining Log are in the works? I personally love data and will find that very useful for both me and my corp. I am curious if there may be a Loot-Log available at some point to track what loot we drag out of dead things. Every fleet has a loot log. Might not be quite what you want, probably isn’t on par with the data goodness from the new mining ledger (haven’t checked it out myself, but have heard about it), but just always be in a fleet, even if just by yourself, and you’ll be logging the looting. ---
**Author:** ![Adam\_McSoulless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adam_mcsoulless/32/24720_2.png) [@Adam\_McSoulless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adam_McSoulless)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/32 "2017-09-16T02:27:05Z")
Good idea for personal data but was more referring to a corp-wide one. My corp does run missions on the side, so it would be nice to look into ---
**Author:** ![Chet\_AwesomeIaser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chet_awesomeiaser/32/24848_2.png) [@Chet\_AwesomeIaser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chet_AwesomeIaser)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/33 "2017-09-16T11:33:32Z")
Does the multiple character training special offer apply if I use PLEX to pay for it from the PLEX vault in game? Or only if I pay cash on the website? ---
**Author:** ![Krima\_Sumyungi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/krima_sumyungi/32/496692_2.png) [@Krima\_Sumyungi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Krima_Sumyungi)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/34 "2017-09-16T15:48:51Z")
Cash only. ---
**Author:** ![Dior\_Ambraelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dior_ambraelle/32/393685_2.png) [@Dior\_Ambraelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dior_Ambraelle)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/35 "2017-09-16T22:13:54Z")
@Nora_Maldoran Those double-exposure images are awesome! Nice work! ---
**Author:** ![Drizden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drizden/32/24978_2.png) [@Drizden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drizden)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/36 "2017-09-17T01:08:07Z")
I can confirm it is ONLY from Account Management and not via ingame PLEX bought MCT Certificates. This was confirmed to me by GM Ix from Customer Support. I found out the hard way ☹ It would have been nice to have this spelt out on their advert beforehand. I would not have bothered wasting the isk otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Jenne\_Wain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenne_wain/32/71483_2.png) [@Jenne\_Wain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenne_Wain)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/37 "2017-09-17T05:07:28Z")
Thanks for the confirmation, and sorry for the wasted ISK. I appreciate the reply. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/38 "2017-09-17T11:01:49Z")
> [@CCP\_Phantom](#): > > please use this forum feebdack thread. feebdack. 😊 Will you ban me for this eventually? 😕 i really appreciate the weekly lookbacks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Phantom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_phantom/32/11746_2.png) [@CCP\_Phantom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Phantom)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/39 "2017-09-17T12:44:27Z")
> [@Jenne\_Wain](#): > > I assume that this also means that we need to purchase the MCT through the link and we are not able to use PLEX though the NES, is that correct? Yes, that is correct. This offer is available **only** out-of-game via your account management. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Phantom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_phantom/32/11746_2.png) [@CCP\_Phantom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Phantom)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774/40 "2017-09-17T12:47:05Z")
> [@yellow\_parasol](#): > > please use this forum feebdack thread. > > feebdack. 😊 Eagle eyed! 😲 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-week-in-eve-169-9-15-september/24774.md?page=3)