# Thought experiment: What would happen if fitting modules wasnt instant? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 28, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064 "2023-07-28T12:05:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaj_a_beardhat/32/449367_2.png) [@Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaj_A_Beardhat)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/22 "2023-08-05T19:52:19Z")
As long as small ships fitting was less than 10 seconds. But honestly, we don’t need more logistical headaches at an individual player level. ---
**Author:** ![Thosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thosa/32/379956_2.png) [@Thosa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thosa)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/23 "2023-08-06T06:02:57Z")
Maybe CCP should rename Alpha as Demo to be clear. People don’t get it, there are thinking everything is for free, granted and should be. I hate that “new generation”. Don’t forget when it’s free you are the product so ask for your pay. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/24 "2023-08-06T06:12:30Z")
> [@Brun\_Warbear](#): > > Alpha is the demo version, not the full game, It’s better than a demo, since you can earn isk as an alpha and become Omega, thus free to play (provided you are good enough). ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/25 "2023-08-06T06:34:19Z")
Can I have my allowance now? ---
**Author:** ![Thosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thosa/32/379956_2.png) [@Thosa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thosa)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/26 "2023-08-06T07:55:33Z")
No you should thx the one who pay the bill for you to access at the server as an alpha 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/27 "2023-08-06T08:06:45Z")
The community should remember the fine effects that Hateless shared with so many Alpha”s exactly how you Princess had mentioned in your thread reply. Alpha is a stepping stone to becoming Omega. I just don’t hold the knowledge to help Alpha pilots like how others have given so much of their time and dedication towards. Though in regards to helping Pilots, I do see you as someone who helps miners under that there are better things in New Eden…. So there’s that! ---
**Author:** ![Sampl\_Boirelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sampl_boirelle/32/350907_2.png) [@Sampl\_Boirelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sampl_Boirelle)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/28 "2023-08-11T03:08:59Z")
I think that is an interesting idea! I would also see it as depending on type+module size=x amount of minutes that the dock crew needs to install. ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/29 "2023-08-11T10:48:01Z")
Depending on how its done the workflow could be improved slightly. I for one have offlined a module by mistake in space because i thought it was in simulater mode+other small annoyances:). But if fitting wasnt instant then the fitting window in theory would always be in simulate mode, and the modules wont get fitted until you click accept, and then you waited a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/30 "2023-08-11T12:19:31Z")
> [@Daim\_Is](#): > > Im still down for this sort of approach Well you would be, as you just totally ignore every counter point. > [@Daim\_Is](#): > > I also think… Nope…I have serious doubts that thinking is something you are proficient at. > [@Daim\_Is](#): > > This can also tie into the idea of EVE online being free to play and everyone is equal. Gawd no. I don’t want to play a game where everyone is equal. Go back to Farmville ! Eve is dystopian inequality and capitalist connivance from the minute you join. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/31 "2023-08-11T13:32:21Z")
> [@Thosa](#): > > Maybe CCP should rename Alpha as Demo to be clear. Maybe the consumer (aka you) should have due diligence and figure out how the game is funded. **I mean games don’t hide it when they want your money!** It will be subscription, DLC model, a 1-time purchase, or through thousands of microtransactions 99.999999% of all games will be a degree of these 4 models. ---
**Author:** ![Thosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thosa/32/379956_2.png) [@Thosa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thosa)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/32 "2023-08-11T14:44:00Z")
Who said I didn’t know? I’ve been here since 2007. It’s the alpha who cry because “I don’t have access to everything”. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/34 "2023-08-12T06:40:51Z")
We have already enough timers making us wait. If someone really likes to wait, go make rounds in autopilot, in freighter. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/35 "2023-08-12T10:38:58Z")
Imagine having to look twice at the video below (it’s roughly 2min30sec) before you can undock because you fitted something… I guarantee you that those friendly men in their pristine white coats will eventually come to take you to a stately building in the countryside, with lots of greenery and spotless white corridors, where you will be able to recover from your ordeal, given plenty of time and rest and therapy. A dumb idea only gets dumber by spinning it. There’s no fixing it. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/4/d/64dd05b67d1e6dfa93281e3d12ce69467ce5c916.jpeg "EVE Online - Ship Spinning Counter 2018") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAJ7v-xthvM) ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/36 "2023-08-12T13:29:35Z")
You do know people can argue the other side to why the Alpha/Omega system saved EVE in a changing and dynamic market? It’s not entirely black and white here as you claim lol ---
**Author:** ![Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kitaula_kuusa_jouhinen/32/498716_2.png) [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kitaula_Kuusa_Jouhinen)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/37 "2023-08-12T15:42:04Z")
I like the idea of it. If it was that way from the start, I would be all behind it But changing it to that right now would _actually_ kill Eve. It would be such a change to game flow that people would revolt, and even if CCP changed it back in short order, enough people would have quit that it would put the game in the grave. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/38 "2023-08-12T19:43:19Z")
Oh yeah, this is brilliant idea and I think there is a chance it might get implemented. After all, CCP agrees with you and not so long ago added this pending animation for docking and undocking. Therefore, fitting ships is next logical step I think. Here is my humble take on how it could look like: ![scorpion-navy-issue-level4-fit](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/4/9/7494befab8d6942d75fdbe5e6b5126d2b84f99d6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/39 "2023-08-12T19:44:00Z")
> [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](#): > > I like the idea of it. If it was that way from the start, I would be all behind it If it had been that way from the start, one of two things would have happened: 1. It would have been the very first thing they took out of the game or 2. there would be no EvE Online today Do you know of any MMO that penalizes players’ game time for swapping gear ?! smh > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Here is my humble take on how it could look like: please add clock in animation in the next patch, lol ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/40 "2023-08-12T20:43:00Z")
If they did that they would be dishonest and political ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/41 "2023-10-03T18:47:48Z")
that was amazing ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064/42 "2023-10-03T19:04:21Z")
Fitting modules is not instant. You have to dock, remove any existing modules, locate the new module, add it, check the module activates, and undock. This can easily take several seconds, and since one day in EvE equals one year (that’s canon), a fifteen second module swap is actually 90 minutes. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thought-experiment-what-would-happen-if-fitting-modules-wasnt-instant/414064.md?page=3)