# Thoughts on the Wardec Changes (from a member of Pirat)

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 14, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981 "2019-03-14T02:39:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/163 "2019-03-22T09:34:43Z")

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The people in 1984 don’t read books.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/164 "2019-03-22T09:35:04Z")

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I’d laugh too if it wasn’t so spot on. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/165 "2019-03-22T10:54:38Z")

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‘If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.’  
george orvell

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/167 "2019-03-22T12:12:45Z")

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hmm, i recall an incident earlier this year…a group mined on someone’s moon, than another, and another trying to time the ability to take as much as possible…

The response…50+ pilots in exhumers, orcas, bumper ships, and gankers…returning the favor…taking all the rocks, thats PvP even though if i recall not a single combat shot was fired…the ore thieves packed up their ■■■■ and left…

PvP in EvE is all about consequences…we need more PvP, even the combat side of it cause not enough stuff is being destroyed. A player at this time has to wonder why its better to join a group they can fit with and adapt to its rules cause that group is not going to adapt to the individual. the mentality of Less pvp, leave me alone, or i dont have to adapt…comes with consequences just as in RL. If EvE is not for a particular individual, then I am sorry that player should of studied better and gotten with the program.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/168 "2019-03-22T16:24:27Z")

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> [@Traco\_Miritu](#):
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> ‘If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.’  
> george orvell

This is a game, we are playing a game, I’m not sure you get this, also this game has rules learn them.

stop whiing like a child demanding you want the same ice lolly you just seen in another childs hands.

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**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/169 "2019-03-23T00:28:53Z")

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I’m game for the challenge. Looking forward to the new changes - Adapt or die!

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/170 "2019-03-23T09:17:41Z")

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I think the challenge is for those in hisec going after PIRAT, not so much the other way around. 😛

But your challenge will be from the major nullsec alliances if they can be bothered too, I bet most will hide behind the excuse that you are doing them a favour by culling the weak and stupid. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/171 "2019-03-23T12:08:37Z")

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We have plans even if one or multiple null blocs decided to take out all our War HQs. Its not rocket science but it means we can continue to have content all the time, take contracts as normal and more importantly take the fights we want / leave ones we don’t want. Even with a N+1 number we could not match our place in high sec is not under threat.

We just hope the content is going to be a good challenge.

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**Author:** ![Cyber\_Fight\_r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyber_fight_r/32/167707_2.png) [@Cyber\_Fight\_r](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cyber_Fight_r)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/172 "2019-05-22T07:00:48Z")

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Cry more Pirat…  
If we are honest you guys are the only one who uses that war mechanic that much.  
CCP should remove it at all (they can afford to lose 5 Guys with 20 plexed Accounts)

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**Author:** ![Commander\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_kane/32/199755_2.png) [@Commander\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Kane)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/173 "2019-05-22T12:24:46Z")

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I would dispute that.

Being in PIRAT now I can confirm it is actually 10 people with 10 alts each. And that is just the one corp in the alliance. I thought everybody knew @Tora_Bushido was my alt… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/174 "2019-05-22T23:33:38Z")

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> [@Faylee\_Freir](#):
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> - Suspect baiting
> - Solo, small group, & large group wardecs
> - Ganking, freighter bumping, & freighter dueling
> - “Solo” & group BLOPS in Lowsec and Nullsec
> - High class wormholes _(PVE & PVP)_

You bastard!!!  
\*shakes fist  
I’m glad someone still cares enough about the game to make a post like that.

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/175 "2019-05-23T00:18:57Z")

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I was just thinking to myself “this thread could be historic”

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**Author:** ![JJ\_Joker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jj_joker/32/494096_2.png) [@JJ\_Joker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JJ_Joker)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/176 "2019-05-23T04:06:28Z")

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OMG… i just realized im @Tora_Bushido 😱

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/177 "2019-05-23T07:53:42Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> and to think that they will all merge into one entity is not something I can see happening.

Well I expected them to try, which is logical, and it is interesting in that they have had more success than I expected, I did not expect Marmite to fold into PIRAT for a start, but the night is still young as one would say.

From 28th May things will be interesting at least for a couple of months, well it would have been but the invasion of the north has changed that a bit. The question is really more about how many major entities will decide to come and play with hisec mercs and continue to do so. There is no reason not to unless they are so into apathy or crabbing that they cannot be bothered to do anything.

Still we do need some sort of limited watch list capability, and my favourite is of course to make it part of the locator agent system.

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**Author:** ![Commander\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_kane/32/199755_2.png) [@Commander\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Kane)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/178 "2019-05-23T12:48:43Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Still we do need some sort of limited watch list capability, and my favourite is of course to make it part of the locator agent system.

That I can fully agree with and would love to see.

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**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/179 "2019-05-28T22:57:12Z")

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CCP needs to have special npc rats to harass new players in hi sec. They will follow you around and wait for you at gates. Not strong but enough to keep you on your toes, when the new player start flying a better ships they will keep there distance but wait for the bigger ships to set up an ambush 😉 flying tech 2 ships will end the harrassment.

They should avoid farming attempts but only engage the weaker newer players.

Or allow ganking in frigates only on new accounts frigates.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thoughts-on-the-wardec-changes-from-a-member-of-pirat/145981/180 "2019-08-26T22:57:15Z")

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