# Tiered War costs and allied conditions proposal **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [March 28, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490 "2018-03-28T21:40:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/21 "2018-04-02T02:19:29Z")
So hypothetically if a declared war on b and nobody died in a week what would happen? ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/22 "2018-04-02T02:20:42Z")
If there are no active invitations by the aggressor then it continues so long as you pay your bill. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/23 "2018-04-02T02:26:29Z")
What if a wanted to declare on a cooperative operating under corps q w e r t y and b. That’s 7 could it be done ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/24 "2018-04-02T02:36:41Z")
3 is too short of 10, so d v o r a k would delcare war on a or also fall under the disqualification for non aggression ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/25 "2018-04-02T06:40:50Z")
So hard limit of 10 at any one time? ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/26 "2018-04-02T08:55:09Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > We really need a global wardec thread where all this nonsense can be dumped into. this please. as to the idea sooooo i just have a few corps that my corp mates shuffle through over the year? ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/27 "2018-04-02T13:00:37Z")
10 is a lot. Who decs more than 10 corps every year. But it was just an example and you can still have an alliance of separate corps to do more. ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/28 "2018-04-02T13:01:32Z")
> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#): > > sooooo i just have a few corps that my corp mates shuffle through over the year? like I said. Alt corps is a separate problem, imo. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/29 "2018-04-02T19:16:54Z")
Every mercenary taking highsec contracts ever… The seven example was an actual real example I’ve encountered. That didn’t even count the corps with less than 10 members. You think if 10 was the max number they wouldn’t have made more? Finally this makes corp hopping even more broken. Leave an almost blank alt as CEO and move everyone to a new corp. Bam the attacker just wasted a war and worse is stuck with it for one week ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/30 "2018-04-02T19:37:33Z")
but they aren’t because they make your system pointless… ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/31 "2018-04-02T22:26:57Z")
They make a lot of things worthless. Why go into it? When the obvious problems get enough complaints, then maybe another fix will come to corporation hopping and inherited wars affecting dropped members. Most problems tie into each other. You single them out and deal with them one at a time. That’s the easiest way to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/32 "2018-04-02T22:28:04Z")
> [@Oreb\_Wing](#): > > Most problems tie into each other. You single them out and deal with them one at a time. That’s the easiest way to do it. but you need to solve the base problem first ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/33 "2018-04-02T22:28:47Z")
Nay. You give priority to the problem that is causing people to leave the game. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/34 "2018-04-02T22:29:35Z")
… not when your solution doesn’t solve anything if its easy to get around. ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/35 "2018-04-02T22:33:29Z")
It just redirected the problem. A new solution will come up. Maybe start a new corporation with zero war points. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/36 "2018-04-02T22:40:41Z")
> [@Oreb\_Wing](#): > > It just redirected the problem. A new solution will come up. yeah… that’s efficient. here we have a solution that doesn’t solve the problem but makes things harder in areas that weren’t the problem don’t worry though i’m sure some one will solve the problem ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/37 "2018-04-02T22:42:04Z")
There are people who talk about the problem and those who talk about the possible solutions. I see you are of the first kind. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/38 "2018-04-02T22:51:54Z")
no i talk about how your solution solves nothing ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/39 "2018-04-02T23:04:53Z")
In fact, it does. It changed where the problem was and now we wait for the right department to pick up where we left off. Bureaucracy at its best. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490/40 "2018-04-02T23:07:02Z")
problem: groups able to constantly mass war dec implement your solution: groups still able to mass war dec. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiered-war-costs-and-allied-conditions-proposal/66490.md?page=3)