# Tiericide - The never ending story **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [August 1, 2017, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749 "2017-08-01T12:15:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Small-Kitty-Paws](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/small-kitty-paws/32/339026_2.png) [@Small-Kitty-Paws](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Small-Kitty-Paws)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/81 "2023-01-05T17:44:47Z")
Nothing. After last changes in 2020. Tiericide project is dead. Can’t remember anyone even mentioning this since then. ---
**Author:** ![Neugeniko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neugeniko/32/382909_2.png) [@Neugeniko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neugeniko)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/82 "2023-01-05T18:56:22Z")
Anyone remember what fanfests ships and modules balance presentation was about? I asked around and noone has a vid. ---
**Author:** ![Small-Kitty-Paws](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/small-kitty-paws/32/339026_2.png) [@Small-Kitty-Paws](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Small-Kitty-Paws)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/83 "2023-01-05T20:17:33Z")
No idea. I don’t think that any of “roundtable” discussions where recorded. At lest none of them is at CCP YT afik. And I don’t think those were presentations of any sort. ---
**Author:** ![Neugeniko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neugeniko/32/382909_2.png) [@Neugeniko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neugeniko)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/84 "2023-01-05T21:03:53Z")
Thanks for the reply and details. I guess Ill watch some of the fanfest videa to get a idea of whats in store. ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/85 "2023-01-06T06:04:23Z")
torpedo launchers still need to be fixed ---
**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/86 "2023-01-06T07:04:08Z")
How did this get revived when it was inactive for a year??? ---
**Author:** ![Neugeniko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neugeniko/32/382909_2.png) [@Neugeniko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neugeniko)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/87 "2023-01-12T13:05:18Z")
I asked for it not to be autolocked, rather than repost over the years. Its a long term thread with a comic title which has inspired some devs to keep a eye on overall ship and module balance. When weapons get their pass I will probably stop the thread. But for now the story continues… ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/88 "2023-01-12T13:38:23Z")
Time to contact csm as aprently no one rembers them @Brisc_Rubal ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/89 "2023-01-13T02:37:15Z")
rocket launchers need tiercide as well ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/90 "2023-01-13T15:57:34Z")
Did any of the small, medium or large turrets get any tiericide treatment in the meantime? I was looking for it but I couldn’t find anything, so I assume all the launchers need a little love and all the regular turrets too. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/91 "2023-07-12T22:20:51Z")
Back from a break. still no Remote Guidance computer… ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Elizabeth\_McNeil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dr_elizabeth_mcneil/32/378754_2.png) [@Dr\_Elizabeth\_McNeil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dr_Elizabeth_McNeil)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/92 "2023-07-16T05:16:09Z")
Bump… ---
**Author:** ![Neugeniko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neugeniko/32/382909_2.png) [@Neugeniko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neugeniko)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/93 "2023-08-20T05:29:10Z")
Bump… Back after playing something else for a while after getting fed up with old eve bugs and legacy systems. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/94 "2023-08-20T08:43:00Z")
Among other things, I wanted to ask, if the small, medium and large tech 1 guns have been changed from meta 1-4 to useful? ---
**Author:** ![Neugeniko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neugeniko/32/382909_2.png) [@Neugeniko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neugeniko)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/95 "2023-08-20T09:54:09Z")
No, I don’t remember when they last mentioned it. What they did say is something about the complexity of the task when different ammo types were combined with different guns. YOU CAN DO IT CCP!!! We have computers for this sort of thing! ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/96 "2023-08-20T12:42:37Z")
They probably mean, if they go a similar way like they did with the capital guns, then imagine a t1 tracking version of a 225mm vulcan autocannon. Loaded with the tracking ammo could potentially break EVE, but, you know, they can also just skip a tracking gun for the S, M, L guns and just make a range bonused, a fitting bonused and if applicable, a capacitor consumption bonused railgun, lazor(s), blasters one. It is not rocket science. I feel like I am doing someone elses job again for free, like many time before. ---
**Author:** ![Neugeniko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neugeniko/32/382909_2.png) [@Neugeniko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neugeniko)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/98 "2023-09-14T07:50:06Z")
In other news. CCP did fix a annoying bug with next stargate autoselection not working on entering a system. That fix alone made my first month back. I know once weapons are redone ill be taking a break from pushing for basic game changes. The next thread will be about implementing a largely self regulating gank and antigank environment. So much potential there to gateway drug many highsec dwellers into other forms of pvp in different rulesets. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/99 "2023-09-16T05:26:48Z")
I don’t think we need guns with various tracking / optimal etc differences. Already have ammo, and the game is complex enough as is ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/100 "2023-09-16T08:38:39Z")
I know that, and I was merely spitballing. They could do something like a compact gun, long(er) range gun (in this case for the longest range tech 1 ammo), but regular fitting, a capacitor one maybe and maybe a large(r) ammo clip gun. Problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749/101 "2023-12-25T00:56:52Z")
Make ECM modules scripted for Sensor types. This would save 21 different modules. You could even make the unscripted ECM module the Multispectral unit, further saving an additional 7 modules. You have 1 ECCM script that works against all racial modules. This remains the same counter effectiveness. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749.md?page=6)