# Time for a day of player scarcity, to teach CCP the meaning of the word?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 15, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286 "2024-12-15T15:27:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/23 "2024-12-17T15:22:36Z")

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^ Thanks for illustrating just how insignificant our voices sometimes are…

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/24 "2024-12-17T15:28:59Z")

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So you want CCP to take the player driven economy, destroy it completely, and implement a new one where the prices never change? You want CCP to determine the worth of every single item in Eve?

Sure… I mean the market has been player driven for over a decade and has survived this long, so what could go wrong by undoing all of that.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/25 "2024-12-17T17:16:12Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> I’m well aware you’re blindly focused on your own personal view of EVE to be the only true and complete version of EVE gameplay.

No, I leave that honor to you.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> However when I talk about the game, I actually refer to game-wide statistics

That’s odd, as I don’t see a single ‘statistic’ in your claims here.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> Facts. They’re out there. You should try looking at some sometime.

I’d look at some if you actually presented some. Your post I responded to did not contain a single fact. You even say so yourself with ‘this is only a personal observation and opinion’. Single when did your personal observation and opinion get elevated to _fact_ ?

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/26 "2024-12-17T17:18:21Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> Nobody cares.

Tell that to the people who lost their station 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/27 "2024-12-17T17:28:52Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> Tell that to the people who lost their station

Bragging about being a structure basher? One of the bottom feeders of PVP?

Okay.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/28 "2024-12-17T17:36:35Z")

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I don’t need lessons in PvP from someone for whom there is zero evidence they have ever undocked. It’s this button…in case you are confused…

 ![undock](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/7/e/b7ec4d019830fc278dff65879169d7d10a2ad16f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/29 "2024-12-17T17:43:30Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> Your post I responded to did not contain a single fact.

Right. Sorry, I forgot you’re both math- and fact-blind, and incapable of following a simple logic chain such as “MERs show this, so go look at the MER”.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> So the MERs show a significant drop in destruction/conflict over the period of Scarcity (with one large spike for a war), then slow recovery in destruction after Scarcity ended, to the point where it’s now back about where it was before Scarcity ever started.

And then people wonder why I have to write an essay to back up anything I say…

Here, for the research-crippled, is the link to the MER you’re apparently unable to find:

> **[Monthly Economic Report - November 2024 | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/monthly-economic-report-november-2024)**
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> The Monthly Economic Report for November 2024 is now available!

To narrow things down even further for the hard-of-thinking, ‘Destruction’ is the blue line near the bottom of the first chart.

Enjoy.

(PS: Just a note - denial of the facts only shows you have no argument. It doesn’t mean the facts don’t exist.)

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/30 "2024-12-17T17:44:17Z")

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Maybe if you tried PvP, then the destruction line might go up?

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/31 "2024-12-17T17:52:17Z")

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Things are expensive - players have become risk averse (unless it’s absolutely safe or a slam dunk). Mainly because you have to work harder for less return to replace those losses. I’m mainly referring to in-game inflation, ie: higher ship and PLEX prices.

And we haven’t even seen the impact from the numerous skill farms that will certainly be shuttered next year (at 6m PLEX, these are already underwater and operating in the red).

I see a lot fewer skill injectors on the market going forward, though…

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/32 "2024-12-17T18:10:41Z")

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I didn’t say that.

Also do you really believe CCP didn’t design EVE’s ‘player-based’ economy?

CCP made every part of it from the supply ratios, the blueprint requirements to the resource distribution.

And CCP can change these things when they see the economy is in an unhealthy state which leads to problems in the future whether that is because some resources are too hard to get or too easy.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/33 "2024-12-17T18:14:30Z")

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No matter how amazingly wonderful I am…my skills do not included retrospectively going back in time and reading some stats you only just posted before commenting on your original post that did not have the stats. However if you have a spare time machine I might be able to do that.

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**Author:** ![Thork\_DeLaroche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thork_delaroche/32/446812_2.png) [@Thork\_DeLaroche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thork_DeLaroche)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/34 "2024-12-17T18:35:56Z")

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Listening to who, the thousands of conflicting opinions?

> [@Wayward\_Nookie](#):
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> if the player count got cut in half one weekend, would CCP start listening?

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**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-a-day-of-player-scarcity-to-teach-ccp-the-meaning-of-the-word/471286/35 "2024-12-18T05:34:42Z")

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It might be more effective to ask players to assemble in Jita and Amarr to show solidarity but CCP has never cared about it in the past either. The only real way to get changes in game is to follow the only current path… get to know the very few at the top (an always shrinking group) and they will get you a platform to at least speak. Now keep in mind what it takes to become valuable… to become a part of the same cancer which has ruined the game. Catch 22. Good luck. No offense, but better men have been trying for years only to give up and walk away or simply enjoy what little soul the game has left. The best player i ever worked with in almost 30 years of gaming doesnt really have a voice because he doesnt simply agree and become part of the echo chamber. Sad tbh.

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