# Time for new benefits for omega paying subscriptions

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** omega\
**Created:** [May 2, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215 "2020-05-02T22:17:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/185 "2020-05-05T15:23:55Z")

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Oh?

These rounds were gotten from killing a rat.  
So, how are they an ISK sink?

–Exterminator Gadget

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/186 "2020-05-05T15:24:43Z")

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> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#):
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> Oh?
> 
> These rounds were gotten from killing a rat.  
> So, how are they an ISK sink?

well if you got it by killing a rat and use it yourself is not

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/187 "2020-05-05T15:25:28Z")

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Exactly.

The rounds themselves are not a sink.

The same applies to PLEX.

That’s the point everyone is making.

–Helpful Gadget

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/188 "2020-05-05T15:26:43Z")

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ok i surrender

edit:  
btw i sleep on it and i want to say @Runa_Yamaguchi you are a wonderful person and i love you S3

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**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/189 "2020-05-05T23:39:14Z")

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> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> You noticed this as well? Cause I also observed some very strange phenomena with the player numbers during the recent DDoS. There’s only one possible explanation to this!

They are getting ddos’d?  
Knowing these forums they probably think i did it to kill eve.

> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> However, I’m not surprised you are also suspicious. I wouldn’t expect anything less than utmost vigilance from the Great Thinker Naari himself.

when an event comes along in eve to spawn massive player creations, to the point which 98% people on are alts, what do you think comes of it? Its clear its both a cash grab, and a way to say “new players are coming”.

I forsaw that statement months in advance btw telling my corp (at the time) “just wait, hillmar will come saying lots of new people are coming but you wont see anything happen to the concurrent player rate”.

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**Author:** ![Kaabii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaabii/32/199405_2.png) [@Kaabii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaabii)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/190 "2020-05-06T00:15:17Z")

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what should they do? turning this game even more into pay to win? i mean ofcourse, technicly can you achieve everything without to pay even one cent but … then you need a lot of time and kind of luck that you find a LS region where nothing much goes on etc.

arent giving the event rewards already omega benefits? like skill points? which an alpha wont get? and that often a lot more then an alpha gets.

iunno.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/191 "2020-05-06T00:18:58Z")

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They pay for Omega…why is that so hard?

I know you want everything for nothing but that’s not how the world works.

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**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/192 "2020-05-06T00:29:46Z")

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EVE Online is making about 13% more now than a year ago. /EndOfThread

[https://massivelyop.com/2020/02/17/pearl-abyss-had-a-strong-q4-2019-but-ccps-eve-spinoff-project-nova-is-officially-canceled/](https://massivelyop.com/2020/02/17/pearl-abyss-had-a-strong-q4-2019-but-ccps-eve-spinoff-project-nova-is-officially-canceled/)

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/193 "2020-05-06T00:56:53Z")

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> [@Skip\_Lorry](#):
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> EVE Online is making about 13% more now than a year ago. /EndOfThread

BUT EVE IS DYING AND WILL DIE UNLESS WE GIVE FARMER TRASH EVERYTHIGN THEY WANT YOU ARE HILMAR’S ALT IF YOU DISAGREE.

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**Author:** ![Inquisitor\_Mayhem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inquisitor_mayhem/32/201586_2.png) [@Inquisitor\_Mayhem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inquisitor_Mayhem)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/194 "2020-05-06T01:33:15Z")

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This lockdown is starting to get into people’s heads…

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/195 "2020-05-06T11:19:51Z")

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> [@DragoFire](#):
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> Plex can be only purchase one month at a time

Bollocks.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/196 "2020-05-06T11:22:10Z")

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> [@Naari\_Naarian](#):
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> Pile of garbage

Hey Sabus, you got over the destruction of your ■■■■ corp? Good for you. Now ■■■■ off from my forums again, please.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/197 "2020-05-06T11:32:16Z")

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> [@Allie\_Miller](#):
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> This feature HAS TO BE included into the subscription or be at a low-low price

No, it doesn’t. ■■■■ off.

> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> Speak your mind freely citizen in whatever words you choose.
> 
> For as the Eranian scripture states:

Oh, you actually read up about the Naari character to make a good troll account. Well done.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/198 "2020-05-06T23:55:38Z")

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> [@Naari\_Naarian](#):
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> Clearly something in the period of the game is wrong with this game which is why its not holding its population, and the metrics themselves from ccp directly seem to suggest its something with the progression rate (as most people stop in the first 3 months).

If you asked me what is the problem: after about 6 weeks you are getting capped by boring support skills. Lets admit it, training them is both necessary and extremely boring. And boy, do they take a while train.

> [@Naari\_Naarian](#):
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> This game is dead, it has no active population

Well, clearly we are playing different game then. Everyday I interact with dozens of people in Eve… can’t dead.

> [@M\_Cincinnatus](#):
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> I think the confusion stems from when an individual buys PLEX with isk, their isk disappears from the _individual’s_ wallet. However, a true isk sink is where isk disappears from the _game_ entirely. The NES is a PLEX sink, not an isk sink.

As long as we ignore market fees…

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**Author:** ![M\_Cincinnatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/m_cincinnatus/32/258279_2.png) [@M\_Cincinnatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/M_Cincinnatus)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/199 "2020-05-07T01:36:00Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> As long as we ignore market fees…

Perhaps you missed this?

> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#):
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> Exactly.
> 
> The rounds themselves are not a sink.
> 
> The same applies to PLEX.
> 
> That’s the point everyone is making.
> 
> –Helpful Gadget

Darkestkhan Eriker, unless your statement was rhetorical(?), then for the purposes of defining PLEX _itself_ as not an isk sink, yes, we are ignoring market fees.

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**Author:** ![Cyzlaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyzlaki/32/218658_2.png) [@Cyzlaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cyzlaki)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/200 "2020-05-07T16:17:30Z")

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So like how WoW gives mounts for free on 6 or 12mth subs? Yep, CCP always playing catch up with stuff like this

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/201 "2020-05-07T16:19:52Z")

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Maybe smarter people already figured this out…but have we ever thought that maybe a good answer to botting is to do away with free to play and using plex to pay for the game?

If we took pure greed out of the equation and reinstated a quality experience for a price but then limited that experience based on paying subs how many automation accounts would that turn away?

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/202 "2020-05-07T16:31:41Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> im fine with the game  
> im in the team eve is great  
> so i don’t have many suggestions atm

I have some suggestions. But as they involve things like capitalization, punctuation, syntax, and grammar, they’d be wasted on you.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/203 "2020-05-07T16:52:55Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> I have some suggestions. But as they involve things like capitalization, punctuation, syntax, and grammar, they’d be wasted on you

i really dont care for your suggestions ,but you have the right to suggest  
you must know I’m a foreigner , i do my best , my best is not good enough for you , I’m glad you don’t pay my bills

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/204 "2020-05-08T01:41:05Z")

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> [@Rekindle](#):
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> If we took pure greed out of the equation and reinstated a quality experience for a price

You realize that if CCP they got rid of PLEX to pay for subs people would be screaming EXACTLY what you are screaming about? That all they are interested in is money…

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