# Time for new benefits for omega paying subscriptions **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** omega\ **Created:** [May 2, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215 "2020-05-02T22:17:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/144 "2020-05-04T20:38:58Z")
> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > If not, then learn to use the proper reply button. ■■■■■■■ 💩 for brains. I used the general reply button, not the specific one; which was the correct one in this instance as I was making a general observation not a reply to an individual poster Check your ego fool, before it wrecks you. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/145 "2020-05-04T20:39:59Z")
Please enlighten me how this ego would wreck me by interacting with simpletons on an online forum? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/146 "2020-05-04T21:17:58Z")
They should remove the ability to use isk to pay for subs. It encourages botting and worse. The fact is if you can’t afford $15 a month then you should be looking for a better job, not playing games to pay for games. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/147 "2020-05-04T21:43:46Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > The fact is if you can’t afford $15 a month then you should be looking for a better job To be fair this isn’t really an option for many at the moment, the ongoing pandemic has left a lot of people in limbo when it comes to employment, or the possibility that they still have a job to go back to when it’s all over. I know that I don’t have one to go back to as my employer has sent me a letter explaining that they’re having to make cuts of up to 80% of the engineering team and offering me full pay until the end of June, with a fairly good redundancy payment on top of that. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/148 "2020-05-04T21:47:08Z")
You are just confirming his point. With ones employment in limbo, an eve subscription should be rather low on that priority list. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/149 "2020-05-04T22:23:26Z")
> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > You are just confirming his point. > > With ones employment in limbo, an eve subscription should be rather low on that priority list. Except you are not the one to decide what people do with their money , employed or not > [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > They should remove the ability to use isk to pay for subs. Stop with the nonsense plz Even wow copied eve in this . You know why? Because it works . edit: eve plex is like 10% of Brazilian minimal wage you sounds like that chick from twitch chastising people for watching her without paying 5 bucks ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/150 "2020-05-04T22:32:34Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > Except you are not the one to decide what people do with their money , employed or not I used the word “should” which indicates a probability and not a certainty. Nowhere have I stated how people must spend their money. Maybe learn how the ■■■■ we spew at each other is supposed to form into understandable sentences. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/151 "2020-05-04T22:44:02Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > Except you are not the one to decide what people do with their money , employed or not Sure we are. If you are unemployed in the middle of an economic crisis with no end in sight and spending money on a monthly video game subscription, especially for a game that you can play for free, then you are an idiot. Someone may have the right to stubbornly ignore this advice, but they’re still an idiot for doing it. > you sounds like that chick from twitch chastising people for watching her without paying 5 bucks What’s your point? If you want people to create content that you like then they need to make money doing it. Parasites that consume and never contribute anything are an entirely valid target for criticism. (Now, why anyone bothers watching “sexy” streamers in a world where every conceivable kind of porn is available with a few clicks is a separate question…) ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/153 "2020-05-04T23:06:58Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > How is PLEX an ISK sink? > The ISK just changes hands… > > –Confused Gadget PLEX is eventually redeemed for goods in NES store, at which point it ceases to be a tangible commodity which can be traded and/or is redeemed for a lower-value commodity, thereby servicing as an ISK sink. PLEX-\>Omega = ISK Sink. PLEX-\>SKINs that you consume = ISK Sink. Etc. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/154 "2020-05-04T23:33:23Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > why people suggest to take my hobby from me? It’s nothing personal, but RMT makes the game worse and I’d rather have a better game with fewer players than damage the game to capture the people who need RMT to play. The only thing that makes PLEX at all tolerable is that it’s less bad than third-party RMT. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/155 "2020-05-04T23:46:53Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > It’s nothing personal ok np i got a bit passionate in the last post but i know is not i dont need any extra isk to play in reality i pay 1.5 bill a month extra to play (5% of that + or - is isk sink remember ) but for what i see a LOT of people use extra isk (plex selling , look at how much plex is in perimeter and jita alone) to play removing plex will decrease the player-base and bots and RMT were MUCH worst in the old days who goes to RMT sites to buy isk? i dont understand this forum people say eve is dying and yet they believe that there is a lot of people buying isk in RMT sites people say eve don’t have a player-base and yet they say everywhere they go they got ganked boting was out of control in fw, the recent changes and work by amarr and mimatar militia changed that, mining bots are out of fashion to because of trig patrols , i really don’t get it i think you are fighting a fictitious enemy ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/156 "2020-05-05T00:28:51Z")
Negative. The ISK went to the person SELLING the PLEX. the ISK is still in game even if the PLEX is not. –Gadget has got a deal for you! ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/157 "2020-05-05T00:31:55Z")
The initial PLEX came from outside the game using RL money. He is not talking about reselling PLEX already in circulation. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/158 "2020-05-05T00:34:35Z")
I’m talking about ISK sinks. Who cares where the PLEX came from. A PLEX has the same amount of ISK sink whether bought from CCP, or traded in game. None. –Unsinkable Gadget ---
**Author:** ![M\_Cincinnatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/m_cincinnatus/32/258279_2.png) [@M\_Cincinnatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/M_Cincinnatus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/159 "2020-05-05T00:34:48Z")
> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#): > > PLEX is eventually redeemed for goods in NES store, at which point it ceases to be a tangible commodity which can be traded and/or is redeemed for a lower-value commodity, thereby servicing as an ISK sink. PLEX-\>Omega = ISK Sink. PLEX-\>SKINs that you consume = ISK Sink. Etc. No, @Gadget_Helmsdottir is correct. I think the confusion stems from when an individual buys PLEX with isk, their isk disappears from the _individual’s_ wallet. However, a true isk sink is where isk disappears from the _game_ entirely. The NES is a PLEX sink, not an isk sink. When a seller puts PLEX on the market, a buyer trades his isk for the seller’s PLEX. The PLEX gets sunk in the NES eventually, but the isk lives on in the seller’s wallet to continue circulation in EVE’s economy. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/160 "2020-05-05T00:36:33Z")
Yeah, after I thought about it a bit more. You and M Cincinnatus are right. I think it is easiest not to think about trading at all. If I inject PLEX with RL money and use them immediately myself, obviously no ISK has left the system. With trade, ISK is just transferred, as you say, from person to person. Nothing is actually removed. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/161 "2020-05-05T00:42:22Z")
the guy have to pay taxes to list plex in the market so plex is a isk sink , its not so hard ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/162 "2020-05-05T00:43:38Z")
But that is a universal ISK sink on all market items. Have nothing to do with PLEX. As I said, the easiest way to think about it, is you buying PLEX with RL money and using them immediately yourself. No ISK is charged. So the PLEX themselves represent no ISK sink. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/163 "2020-05-05T00:44:44Z")
> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > But that is a universal ISK sink is universal but if you remove plex you are removing my 5% of 1.5 bil every month isk sink is not so hard ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215/164 "2020-05-05T00:45:58Z")
The market tax is an ISK sink that is relevant to the market only. The PLEX themselves represent no ISK sink. Think about the above example. Think it is the easiest to grasp without thinking about trade. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-for-new-benefits-for-omega-paying-subscriptions/237215.md?page=9)