# Time to say good bye EVE online **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [December 27, 2020, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088 "2020-12-27T09:59:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![GloriousDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriousdeath/32/245138_2.png) [@GloriousDeath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GloriousDeath)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/61 "2020-12-28T00:04:47Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > This is why Mining needs to be changed 1m/h is terrible but it seems CCP is already on this from the patch notes that we just read. Really? CCP changing the way we mine… So where’s the catch? There’s always a catch with them. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/62 "2020-12-28T00:05:57Z")
The catch is you might need to train into a different ship. - Establish a sustainable role for Rorquals and Orcas and do a general balance pass on mining ships to ensure that they each have a unique role and they are balanced in terms of wealth generation and survivability. CCP’s way of saying they are not balanced currently. I think atm mining with good skills is like 70m/h or something in a mining barge and 120mil/h huffing gas in a c5 with a venture/prospect. ---
**Author:** ![GloriousDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriousdeath/32/245138_2.png) [@GloriousDeath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GloriousDeath)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/63 "2020-12-28T00:11:01Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > And T1 ship BPOs arent very expensive They’re expensive when all you got is a few hundred thousand ISK. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > That said, its not that hard to get into low sec in a Venture, but stocking up enough ore and getting it out solo without alts would be time consuming, in most cases Yes, that’s my case. I mine in low but at the rate I’m going I’d be dead before I can manufacture a ship. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Not meaning to be rude, but have you considered there may strategies to gain what you want that you havent tried? OH you’re not rude. You’re actually pleasant to read. And I’m sure I haven’t tried lots of other strategies. I guess I get lost in the little picture instead of broadening my horizons. ---
**Author:** ![GloriousDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriousdeath/32/245138_2.png) [@GloriousDeath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GloriousDeath)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/64 "2020-12-28T00:13:57Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > It’s not begging at all. It’s being part of a team and that team issuing equipment to it’s members to play the game. I understand that if I want to play EVE and have fun I’ll have to join a corp. Which one is the pickle. There are so many bad corps. in EVE. And some rip you off too, before sending you packing and destroying your ship on your way out. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/65 "2020-12-28T00:15:52Z")
> [@GloriousDeath](#): > > I understand that if I want to play EVE and have fun I’ll have to join a corp. i play solo and god forbid you waste some time to try pvp eh? ---
**Author:** ![GloriousDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriousdeath/32/245138_2.png) [@GloriousDeath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GloriousDeath)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/66 "2020-12-28T00:18:57Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > The catch is you might need to train into a different ship. > > - Establish a sustainable role for Rorquals and Orcas and do a general balance pass on mining ships to ensure that they each have a unique role and they are balanced in terms of wealth generation and survivability. > > CCP’s way of saying they are not balanced currently. > > I think atm mining with good skills is like 70m/h or something in a mining barge and 120mil/h huffing gas in a c5 with a venture/prospect Aaah yes, there’s the catch. Need to go Omega. I’ll go Omega when CCP is done with their changes, nerfs and boosts and quit tempering with game mechanics. I guess when EVE is finished. Because right now it feels that the product isn’t finished since they have to shuffle sh!t around and do and all those things that players complain about. ---
**Author:** ![GloriousDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriousdeath/32/245138_2.png) [@GloriousDeath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GloriousDeath)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/67 "2020-12-28T00:22:58Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > i play solo and god forbid you waste some time to try pvp eh? Oh for Pete’s sake! Get off my balls with your PvP god. He’s a false god and his prophets are nothing but cult leaders. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/68 "2020-12-28T00:26:25Z")
> [@GloriousDeath](#): > > I’ll go Omega when CCP is done with their changes I pretty much think the same way. Un subbed all my acct’s, etc. I did take the bait for the yearly sub offer for this toon though. Turns out all the sub cap skills I want to lvl 5 take 255 days so I guess a win for me kinda? ---
**Author:** ![GloriousDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriousdeath/32/245138_2.png) [@GloriousDeath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GloriousDeath)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/69 "2020-12-28T00:32:38Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I pretty much think the same way. Un subbed all my acct’s, etc. I did take the bait for the yearly sub offer for this toon though. Turns out all the sub cap skills I want to lvl 5 take 255 days so I guess a win for me kinda? I would never sub for an entire year at once. I think three months at a time is safer. What if I sub for a whole year and get run over by a truck the very next morning? 🤣 We don’t even know what can happen next month with the psychopaths that lord it over us. Now that you paid for a year my advice is to play the sh!t out of this game, changes or not. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/70 "2020-12-28T00:48:02Z")
You could join Pandemic Horde and be mining or ratting in nullsec in Corp provided ships within an hour. It’s not begging, it’s more like being paid to attend a trades school. They keep you supplied with the basics and in turn you learn how to grow into bigger things, which then provide income back to the Corp in taxes and goods. I’m in Pandemic but it’s not a recruitment ad. I think Karmafleet does the same thing, as well as Brave as well as probably someone in TEST but I’m not too familiar with them. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/71 "2020-12-28T00:54:36Z")
The “few” friends that survived the game with me would get my acct’s. We gamed together for a long time together before EVE. (my wife has the passwords) That’s what made a small corp so dangerous. As for subbing by the year, when the game was really worth playing like an addiction, we would pay by the yr just to not have to grind to play. There was no plex back then so we had to rmt to put more isk into the game to keep up our life style which was mostly wd’ing the null blocks. Ahhh, back in the days when a small corp could actually annoy the ■■■■ outta null blocks! The 1st Burn Jita! 🤩 [Mary Hopkin - Those Were The Days - 1968 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KEhWTnWvE) Edit; And yes, I did make myself listen to the whole thing. 👀 ---
**Author:** ![GloriousDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriousdeath/32/245138_2.png) [@GloriousDeath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GloriousDeath)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/72 "2020-12-28T00:56:57Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > You could join Pandemic Horde and be mining or ratting in nullsec in Corp provided ships within an hour. I OH you mean these guys? > [@Discord as an obligation](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/45): > > A friend of mine told me, when I mentioned I’m now playing EVE, that he joined a corporation 41 jumps away from his home sistem out in Null and after a few weeks he decided that corp. wasn’t for him. He told me as soon as he left it that some of the members podded him everytime he tried to move his stuff out of their station. > That’s all kinds of messed up. I don’t remember which corp it was but I remember their logo is a yellow hazardous sign, from his description > [@Discord as an obligation](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/63): > > > [@Discord as an obligation](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/62): > > > > Pandemic Horde > > OMG! THAT is the corporation that my friend warned me about ! Yellow sigil, right ? > There is NO way in HELL I’ll join Pandemic Horde, not after the way they behaved when my friend left their corporation. NO THANKS. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/73 "2020-12-28T01:10:04Z")
Did you read like the very next post below that? Anyways that definitely hasn’t been my experience or the experience of the hundreds of guys I fly with on a daily basis. Regardless, the way you are currently playing definitely isn’t sustainable in Eve I would think. Flying a venture into lowsec to mine a little ore is absolutely asking for a frustrating play experience. You need to either find a game you like more or change your perception of what you could be doing. I got sent out into space in just my corvette as a brand new player in 2020 too, and I’m doing just fine. You can too. Or quit and know its just not your style. P.S. the guy in the posts you mentioned probably didn’t get blown up for personal reasons, he got blown up because he showed as a neutral in null sec. That is just how eve is. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/74 "2020-12-28T01:15:31Z")
> [@GloriousDeath](#): > > Now that you paid for a year my advice is to play the sh!t out of this game, changes or not. Crap, I forgot to add that a wise Goon in the forums once told me to prepare for the age of chaos. His reasoning was so sound that I packed up all my crap and took the yr sub’s to prepare. Lucky me made out ok. Lucky for me also in life that I can afford to sub all my acct’s so a yr to lvl some stuff while only logging in 5 times a yr is while probably a waste, it’s my money to waste. Although with the threat of hs standings rearing it’s head, I may just go on a standings repair binge for the yr! 🤔 🥳 ---
**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/75 "2020-12-28T01:37:34Z")
For my part. If highsec will become too safe and Lowsec and wormhole will become overly populated. I don’t need the omega time anymore. I just need it for the covert cloak. I love the current lowsec because you can compare it to a rural life. ---
**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/76 "2020-12-28T01:46:48Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Although with the threat of hs standings rearing it’s head, I may just go on a standings repair binge for the yr! I’m stuck on this character for now, but my main has fairly good empire and security standings so should, hopefully, be ok. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I forgot to add that a wise Goon in the forums once told me to prepare for the age of chaos. Arrendis? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/77 "2020-12-28T01:50:17Z")
How did you know??? 🤣 He and I have diametrically opposed opinion’s, but he is a wealth of common sense. ---
**Author:** ![GloriousDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriousdeath/32/245138_2.png) [@GloriousDeath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GloriousDeath)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/78 "2020-12-28T02:17:34Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > You need to either find a game you like more or change your perception of what you could be doing. I have lots of games to play instead of EVE and I do play them. EVE is just another one of my games. Changing my perception of what I could be doing… okay, sounds good. I shall make an effort and explore more avenues… I just hope skills and ISK aren’t going to be a hindrance. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-say-good-bye-eve-online/287088/79 "2020-12-28T02:32:27Z")
Topic Moved to Out of Pod Experience ---
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