# Time To Sort Out Ship Skins **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 5, 2023, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815 "2023-10-05T08:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/81 "2023-10-05T16:53:13Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > Also you can’t buy anything with the earth. That seems to be asking too much of you to stop saying nonsense. Sigh… **Pedantic** : (adjective) Excessively concerned with minor details or rules. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/82 "2023-10-05T16:56:18Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > The current system provides limited choice of skins, Indeed, each skin must be added in the DB by CCP. Since there is no infinite amount of skins, the choice is therefore limited. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > limited availability, That’s because skins are merchandises. If a merchandise has illimited availability, then its price plummets to the opportunity cost of acquiring it. So there is no point speculating on them. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > and to be frank a lot of the skins are not particularly wonderful anyway. Many are quite frankly boring. I am quite sure I could do better if a skin creator was added to Eve. **utterly unrelated** Your taste is not relevant to the listing of skins. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > **Pedantic** : (adjective) Excessively concerned with minor details or rules. Then the core of your argument is minor ? Thanks for clarifying that your opinion is nothing to worry about. What’s more that’s an insult. Even if I were pedantic does not change that your sentence was a complete nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/83 "2023-10-05T16:58:58Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > If you were rich, you would not care about a 2B skin. Don’t be silly. If someone wanted to charge £2 million for a plate of custard…and I love custard… I would not buy it even if they said it was _special_ custard and I was a billionaire. Some things are just genuinely a rip off. Like when someone at Jita charges 1bn for a round of Void S. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/84 "2023-10-05T17:01:16Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I would not buy it even if they said it was _special_ custard and I was a billionaire. The thing is, you’re not billiionaire. And nobody is selling custard in the game. Again, analogies are not a valid argument. What you are saying is nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/85 "2023-10-05T17:03:13Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > Since there is no infinite amount of skins, the choice is therefore limited. Er, yes…the whole point of the OP that you didn’t read was that it shouldn’t be. Have you ever heard of the concept of someone having a different opinion to you ? It is, amazingly, what the forums are for. Discussion, rather than Level V toxic trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/86 "2023-10-05T17:08:03Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > Again, analogies are not a valid argument. Says who ? You ? Please cite your peer reviewed credentials on what is a valid argument. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/87 "2023-10-05T17:08:37Z")
Stefnia is Anderson. I’d not bother. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/88 "2023-10-05T17:10:23Z")
These trolls deliberately make themselves unblockable. Indeed, it has got to the point where ‘public profile hidden’ effectively means the same thing as ‘troll’. And why is it always people who have zero killboard in 5 or 6 years ? Its not like most of them are even active in Eve ( any more ). ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/89 "2023-10-05T17:14:31Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Says who ? You ? Please cite your peer reviewed credentials on what is a valid argument. When you’ve learned english, you can then learn logic with wikipedia, especially [Argument from analogy - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_analogy) ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/90 "2023-10-05T17:22:15Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > I’d not bother. You spend more time in the forum than I do. You should know by now that Altara can’t help himself. You don’t even need to bait him to have him go off the rails. He’ll do it to himself. Last word his own thread into a lock. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/91 "2023-10-05T17:32:44Z")
It’s people like you who have not made a single comment pertinent to the actual topic…that get a thread locked. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/92 "2023-10-05T17:42:55Z")
I know. Still it takes two and since I’d rather NOT see dumb back and forths. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/93 "2023-10-05T17:57:13Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > It’s people like you who have not made a single comment pertinent to the actual topic…that get a thread locked. What happened to: > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Bye bye. Gratz for managing over an hour before making a liar of yourself, I guess. vOv Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/94 "2023-10-05T18:01:30Z")
I remind everyone here now ONCE to be kind and stay on topic. **Be agreeable even if you disagree with it** **You may want to respond to something by disagreeing with it. That’s fine. But remember to criticize ideas, not people.** Abusing the flag functionality is a violation of the forum rules and will be punished as such. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/95 "2023-10-05T18:05:51Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Dont be silly. If I hit ‘buy’ on the skin and it is evident that none are available ( there’s that difficult word again ! ) to buy, then none are ( sorry to have to use the difficult word again ) **available**! Yes, but “available to buy right now” and actually “available” are two different things, i get that this concept seems to be something you struggle with, there is only 1 federate issue megathron, it exists and is therefore available, just not to you ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/96 "2023-10-05T18:17:41Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > I dont know what the best solution is but the skinning experience does not seem great at the moment Skinning should stay in WoW, don’t give the players here any ideas 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Zedva\_Operati](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zedva_operati/32/388608_2.png) [@Zedva\_Operati](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zedva_Operati)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/97 "2023-10-05T19:06:30Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > They are not available ON THE MARKET Idk if you have heard of it, but there is this way of getting stuff called a contract, “THE MARKET” isn’t the only way of getting things. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/98 "2023-10-05T19:33:06Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > The window lists skins when NONE are available on the market…anywhere. What kind of a showcase is that for Eve skins ? Odds are, they are available somewhere… just not to you. You don’t seem to be presenting any actual argument here. Skins are currently implemented as a type of collectible. You don’t like that. The fact that you don’t like it _probably_ isn’t going to amount to much against the rather obvious problems of commoditizing rares just because someone is being loud and entitled about it. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > If I had 100tn ISK I would not buy such a _rip off_ skin. Why would I want to spend _50 times what a ship costs_…just to add a skin to it ? If you check the market history for the item in question, there’s a good chance you will find that other people _are_ willing to pay that amount. Just try being less emotional about supply and demand, I guess. Which retribution skin, specifically, has you in such a tizzy? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/99 "2023-10-05T19:55:26Z")
Hmmm, after reading this topic, someone should suggest to CCP to offer all skins that are _not available_ on the ingame market for hard real world cash, the more the skin has been off-market, the more $$$. Maybe they’d make a fortune. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/100 "2023-10-05T20:19:03Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Yes, but “available to buy right now” and actually “available” are two different things, i get that this concept seems to be something you struggle with, there is only 1 federate issue megathron, it exists and is therefore available, just not to you Well no…here’s my rendition of the thread so far… Altara : ‘Hello Mr Salesperson. It’s so good to see all those ‘Buy Widgets’ signs in the store window. I’ve come to buy a widget. I’m sure you’ve got loads !’ Salesperson : Oh…well…actually we don’t have a single widget in store. Not one. But they are **available** ’ Altara : 'I see. A Widget store that doesn’t have any widgets, yet somehow widgets are mysteriously ‘available’ ’ Salesperson : 'Yes. Someone, somewhere in the known universe MIGHT have one. If you advertise on Ebay you might find one ’ Altara : ’ I see. A shop with big ‘Buy Widgets’ signs outside that doesn’t have a single actual widget and wants me to look on Ebay. Wouldn’t it be simpler if the sign outside said… ’ Ignore the BUY signs, don’t even come in the store…go home and log into Ebay on the vague, off chance that someone on Easter Island might have what you want locked away in a safe ’ Salesperson : ’ Yes..the Red Queen from Alice In Wonderland made our policies. Next you’ll be demanding to have jam today, of all things. Everyone knows you can only have jam tomorrow and yesterday ’ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815.md?page=6)