# Time To Sort Out Ship Skins

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 5, 2023, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815 "2023-10-05T08:53:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/121 "2023-10-05T21:44:56Z")

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Hoarders, traders and collectors _really_ don’t like it if there are plans or ideas to increase availability of items. The age old miserable people doing things that only affect them.

And then they try to derail and misdirect. It’s very obvious.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/122 "2023-10-05T21:53:27Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Which would be fine for the odd rare skin…but I find it laughable just _how many_ ‘rare’ skins there are out of those listed.

The only Retribution skins **not** currently on the Forge market are:

Abyssal Glory - This was an arena prize skin, it’s very rare  
Halcyon Dawn - comes from login rewards  
Ironblood - Came from a direct-reward event (past crimson harvest I think?)  
Malagrin Marshlight - Think these were NES sold around halloween but they’ll be in the twitch drops next week  
Order of Tetrimon - Same as Ironblood I think?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/123 "2023-10-05T21:55:36Z")

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I don’t think it is necessarily an either/or thing. I don’t have a problem with _some_ skins being rare or people making money from them. The problem is that there’s a limited number of skins for any ship, and _most_ of them are rare to some degree. Also, given that the ability exists to produce amazing skins like the Galnet ones ( I love that metalic pink ) a lot of the skins are just plain boring anyway by comparison.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/124 "2023-10-05T22:01:01Z")

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Sure not ALL skins, some are indeed rare for a very good reason. But most are just run of the mill and made in Paint using autofill, they’re not for some super special occasion nor have any sort of lore significance.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/125 "2023-10-05T22:01:20Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> The age old miserable people doing things that only affect them.

Kind of like the OP thinking only of himself with his selfish desire to ruin the game for thousands of people who worked really hard for what they have. And even if CCP put every skin ever in the NES for 100 PLEX each he’d be whining in here that he can’t afford such a steep price.

Got it.

CCP has been down this road plenty of times since long before skins entered the game and will not change everything to keep some entitled noob happy. Because they are never happy. The demands never stop.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/126 "2023-10-05T22:03:29Z")

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> [@Namdor](#):
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> Halcyon Dawn - comes from login rewards

There must have been a competition at CCP for who could create the most boring and un-inspiring skin and fob people off as it being a ‘reward’. I have not come across a single ship on which it looks better than the standard ship skin.

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**Author:** ![Azazod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazod/32/336190_2.png) [@Azazod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazod)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/127 "2023-10-05T22:04:12Z")

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They should have a button you press that gives you all the skins.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/128 "2023-10-05T22:08:20Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Kind of like the OP thinking only of himself with his selfish desire to ruin the game for thousands of people who worked really hard for what they have.

You mean you bought a skin for 25 PLEX in some event or got one for free…and ‘worked really hard’ at adding an extra 6 digits to the price ? Heck, don’t strain your fingers adding the extra zeroes.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/130 "2023-10-05T22:19:20Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> You mean…

You should refresh your memory as to what

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Bye bye.

means.

Even if you could block me, you’d still read all my posts. Though you wouldn’t be the first by a long shot, so there’s that.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/131 "2023-10-05T23:20:41Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Kind of like the OP thinking only of himself with his selfish desire to ruin the game for thousands of people who worked really hard for what they have.

Ruin the game by implementing community involvement when making skins? And a logical rotation schedule that creates a nice market (with certain items being rare/limited?)

That the hill you _really_ want to die on?!

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/132 "2023-10-05T23:54:51Z")

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The hill has nothing to do with me. And it won’t stop at skins. Especially with Altara and the other terminally entitled like her. Next it will be fashion. Then special ships. T2 BPOs. And a dozen other things I can think of off the top of my head.

Like everything else people come in here and demand CCP do something about, it’s all about them. Usually with the end result that CCP loses money. What they’ll make off of releasing every skin made will pale in comparison to the amount of subs they lose from people doing the special events to get the once rare items.

As for community skins, be prepared to pay way more than you want to for that privilege considering the loss of income from the sale of skins as it is now. Then we’ll see Altara’s next rant about how he can’t afford any skins now that the only way to get one is pay the $125 to make your own.

Be careful what you ask for, people. You might just get it.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/133 "2023-10-05T23:57:07Z")

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How many skins are just sitting around not for sale? Probably alot

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/134 "2023-10-05T23:57:43Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Next it will be fashion. Then special ships. T2 BPOs.

Huh? 😂 I don’t believe that tbh.

> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Usually with the end result that CCP loses money.

But it’s free labor from the community?.. To Create these skins?!

> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Be careful what you ask for, people. You might just get it.

Yes! I hope we get community submitted skins via a workshop style. I would love that. What valve has done has made Dota 2, Tf2, CSGO, and probably a lot more games last so much longer because the community makes the skins and the devs then sell it for money.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/135 "2023-10-05T23:59:13Z")

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Stop selective quoting out of context.

You’re better than that.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/136 "2023-10-06T00:00:17Z")

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With that I concede.

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/137 "2023-10-06T00:03:26Z")

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Dont cence you are better than that

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/138 "2023-10-06T00:08:11Z")

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This isnt the first time either. I think 2018 they said we would get skin creator

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/139 "2023-10-06T00:21:25Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> As for community skins, be prepared to pay way more than you want to for that privilege considering the loss of income from the sale of skins as it is now.

That’s just nonsense. All the noobs paying 1/40th of the price of that 2bn ISK skin will more than make up for the rare skins. And they are rare precisely because there aren’t many of them to make CCP money.

> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Then we’ll see Altara’s next rant about how he can’t afford any skins now that the only way to get one is pay the $125 to make your own.

Huh ? $125 to make my ship red ? Is this some special kind of red paint made from unused Amarr gold toilet paper ? There are other MMOs where I can make _anything_ I own red with two clicks of a mouse…at no cost whatever. I’m sure even CCP could manage that.

But I guess people who didn’t want their Model T Ford _only_ available in black were just being ‘entitled’…huh.

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/140 "2023-10-06T00:24:51Z")

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Ah I lost creditability. Too frustrated to continue.

Thanks tho. Good practice here with rhetoric and debate.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/time-to-sort-out-ship-skins/422815/141 "2023-10-06T00:31:37Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Bye bye.

How’s that working out for you?

Mr Epeen 🕶

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