# \[Tinfoil Hat Active\] CCP Falcon wants to create more conflict **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 9, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228 "2019-08-09T14:24:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![xDeadMasterx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xdeadmasterx/32/186259_2.png) [@xDeadMasterx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xDeadMasterx)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/21 "2019-08-10T11:16:26Z")
If you guys want chaos and to keep it lore friendly: Have Either the Drifters or more preferably the Triglavians “hack” CONCORD and have them set all Hi-Sec system security to -1.0 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/22 "2019-08-10T11:45:09Z")
Of course they can. Theirs is the example HS people who see this as their doom should follow. I cant see anyone following your policy of nothing and having fun because of it. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/23 "2019-08-10T11:45:44Z")
> [@xDeadMasterx](#): > > lore Whats that? ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/24 "2019-08-11T01:33:50Z")
Conflict? In a PVP game? What sort of madness is this? ---
**Author:** ![Punctator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/punctator/32/357072_2.png) [@Punctator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Punctator)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/25 "2019-08-11T22:20:44Z")
they should do what players want not some CCP Falcon want - it is pure arrogance. it is why eve is in this misarable condition - they never done what players wants - csm is not a players voice at all. ---
**Author:** ![Punctator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/punctator/32/357072_2.png) [@Punctator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Punctator)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/26 "2019-08-11T22:22:10Z")
CODE my friend is only saveing potential players from starting playing eve what is not that bad - tones of save lives thay have on thair account ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/27 "2019-08-11T22:41:49Z")
If CCP were to cater to what players “want”, we’d be playing MLP in space. Luckily for those of us that prefer Eve to remain a PvP focused game they’re ignoring the people that don’t get Eve. Get good, or go home; if the latter, can I have your stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/28 "2019-08-11T23:08:00Z")
Want conflict? Balance supers. Bring titans more in line with what they were originally intended to be: mobile bases/staging points, not gigantic blapmobiles. Limit structures in Null (lore reason: lack of critical fluid router infrastructure found in empire) by constellation _and_ region whereby the region can support less than the sum of the constellations. More radically: remove all the mechanics associated with SOV. You want to hold space? Structure cap it and defend it, period. ---
**Author:** ![Punctator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/punctator/32/357072_2.png) [@Punctator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Punctator)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/29 "2019-08-11T23:14:37Z")
it is not a PVP but harashment game - PVP means some balance. What glory is ganking some noob with 20 guys. It is like killing 5 level noob by 60 level warrior on keltirs. It is not f. pvp dont call it that. Or 2000 guys shuting to 1 ship and whoring to kill. It is so low i dont want even write about it but calling it pvp. PVP do brave warriors who stands alone agains many, but they are dead race in eve now - cyno and titans kill them all. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/30 "2019-08-11T23:27:49Z")
> [@Punctator](#): > > it is not a PVP but harashment game - PVP means some balance. What glory is ganking some noob with 20 guys. What if the “noob” has a cyno and 100 of his friends jump in? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/31 "2019-08-11T23:32:24Z")
Space Bushido was outcompeted by other play styles. One guy standing against many crap noobs is the same as many crap noobs killing one blingbear. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/32 "2019-08-11T23:42:11Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > If CCP were to cater to what players “want”, we’d be playing MLP in space. > > Luckily for those of us that prefer Eve to remain a PvP focused game they’re ignoring the people that don’t get Eve. What? The current status of the game and it’s constant decline in numbers for the past 10 yrs is due to CCP catering to what that specific group of "players’ want. According to CCP’s 2019 World Tour presentations, they’re going to do things a lot differently now. They’re looking to bring in new players and won’t be catering to old stubborn players who refuse to change. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/33 "2019-08-11T23:46:51Z")
> [@Punctator](#): > > it is not a PVP but harashment game - PVP means some balance. You’re as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine, we appear to fundamentally disagree on what constitutes PvP; IMHO it’s not just about shooting people in the face. > What glory is ganking some noob with 20 guys. What new player is flying something that requires 20 guys to gank? 99% of the ships that new players fly can be ganked by one. > It is like killing 5 level noob by 60 level warrior on keltirs. It is not f. pvp dont call it that. PvP is player vs player, fairness is not part of that. > Or 2000 guys shuting to 1 ship and whoring to kill. That’s a bit of an exaggeration, but it would still be PvP, albeit one sided, because it’s still player vs player. You’re in Goonswarm, an entity well known for bringing overwhelming force to bear against others; are you saying that Goonswarm don’t do PvP? > It is so low i dont want even write about it but calling it pvp. Call it what you like, any activity that involves players pitting themselves against other players in competition is still PvP. > PVP do brave warriors who stands alone agains many, but they are dead race in eve now - cyno and titans kill them all. Again, you’re in Goonswarm, are you criticising your alliance for using every advantage that they can bring to bear in order to win a fight? I’m sure that’ll go down well with your alliance. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > What? The current status of the game and it’s constant decline in numbers for the past 10 yrs is due to CCP catering to what that specific group of "players’ want. Which group of players would you be talking about? Who is refusing to change? It’s not the PvP players for the most part, they seem to adapt readily to any changes that CCP inflict upon them, they ■■■■■ and moan about it, but they adapt; unless CCP completely removes their playstyle, and then they quit. From what I’ve seen CCP have been nerfing various aspects of the game in order to attract a more mainstream audience; a mainstream audience that expects Eve to change for them. Pointing fingers at those who are adapting and saying that they’re not is dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/34 "2019-08-11T23:49:57Z")
Honor tanking with hull repair modules no good then? ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/35 "2019-08-12T00:02:41Z")
I always get a kick out of this sequence of events that I watch play out weekly. Goes like this. 1. An innocent procurer gets tackled by a dastardly gang of evil doers! Is this the end? 2. No! Our plucky hero, beset upon from all sides by flashy reds in blingy T3s, lights a cyno! 3. Jumpjumpjump, good guys win, innocent mining barge is saved! 4. Bad guys who, mere moments ago, were more than happy to gang up on an innocent mining barge, spend 10 minutes throwing a tantrum in local about _blobbing_. 🤷‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/36 "2019-08-12T00:03:51Z")
> [@Haulie\_Berry](#): > > blobbing It’s only blobbing if you’re not the person doing it 😛 Hypocrisy is part of being human. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/37 "2019-08-12T01:14:35Z")
CCPLEASE! Nerf friendship! ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/38 "2019-08-12T06:46:03Z")
A player like me wants the environment to be more challenging, we have it in hisec with FOB’s which I will remind people many hisec players just cannot deal with them. They put something similar in for nullsec which their upgraded capability could deal with and nullsec threw a complete wobbly. I also adore Trig invasions, great going CCP. This is supposed to be a hard game, not some oh we only expect to have player vs player content in nullsec rubbish…, to say I was filled with contempt for that is an understatement when hisec players have sucked on FOB’s for some time. I want CCP to make the environment tougher. When I look at the blackout, I am not keen on it as it changes the balance between hunter and hunted too much in the favour of hunters if we take into account cyno’s and their force projection. If we could get cyno’s out of the equation in some way I would accept it totally, but please get rid of that other free intel that serves up activity info on a plate to the easy kill players. This game has been too easy for too long for certain players with high rewards and low risk even if generated by their own actions and it is good that CCP is changing that even if it is painful. There are so many more people in hisec now which I like. > [@Haulie\_Berry](#): > > I always get a kick out of this sequence of events that I watch play out weekly. Goes like this. > > 1. An innocent procurer gets tackled by a dastardly gang of evil doers! Is this the end? > 2. No! Our plucky hero, beset upon from all sides by flashy reds in blingy T3s, lights a cyno! > 3. Jumpjumpjump, good guys win, innocent mining barge is saved! > 4. Bad guys who, mere moments ago, were more than happy to gang up on an innocent mining barge, spend 10 minutes throwing a tantrum in local about _blobbing_ . I quite agree with this, even with my statements on cyno’s, I find the hunters who moan about being blobbed when they blob themselves highly amusing. I have seen some real classic whining by so called elite PvP’rs when dealt with in this fashion. My favourite was a kiting Volta specialist moaning about my use of a Falcon to free a corp mates drake from a Cynabel and oversized AB Tengu. He said “Good fight until Falcon!” Irony was lost on him… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/39 "2019-08-12T07:16:46Z")
> [@Punctator](#): > > glory Why is glory important? ---
**Author:** ![Punctator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/punctator/32/357072_2.png) [@Punctator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Punctator)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/40 "2019-08-20T15:05:31Z")
it gives some emotions - and you want play the game to feel it. If you are 1 of 256 people in 2 fighting fleets you feel notheing, but good fc can make it fun if he can sing. Harashment is the form of pvp ok yes - but it is the lowest one. eve is so bad in pvp aspect you can only play it for friends… - but it WAS not ALWAYS like that… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228.md?page=3)