# \[Tinfoil Hat Active\] CCP Falcon wants to create more conflict **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 9, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228 "2019-08-09T14:24:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/81 "2019-08-22T14:03:24Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > It’s easy to whine and say “I don’t like this”. It’s another to say, “I know what I want, and it is x”. I don’t care if you’re not a coder. I want to know if you even know what it is that you want. this is what i am saying i want, what will make more conflict. concepts are what you get, don’t like it? unsub. (can i have ur stuff btw?) ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/82 "2019-08-22T18:37:16Z")
It does not. Look at what was quoted and my answer. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/83 "2019-08-22T19:33:10Z")
Oh yeah gotcha, sorry ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/84 "2019-08-22T21:17:14Z")
When items that facilitate conflict, such as ships and mods, become more expensive and less available across the game because industry is snuffed out… guess what. LESS CONFLICT! Holy F\*\*\*ing Logic, Batman! ---
**Author:** ![Dotar\_Sojat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dotar_sojat/32/169344_2.png) [@Dotar\_Sojat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dotar_Sojat)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/85 "2019-08-23T01:27:43Z")
The best way to cause conflict would be to stop PLEX and skill injection in any form whatsoever, forever and give alphas 30 days to decide, then the boot. Then delete all map statistics, wormholes and every local channel. Force people to sink or swim and stop pandering to the lazy no account snowflakes. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/86 "2019-08-23T01:32:23Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Oh totally. I mentioned them seperately because they are a totally different ballgame. And yes, they can be a threat, certainly. So there is risk in high sec? and hey look, its not pvp related =X Looks like you were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/87 "2019-08-23T05:30:57Z")
The material count need for ships and modules is increases logarithmically for better ships. Battles should happen with cheap ships. ---
**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/88 "2019-08-23T06:14:24Z")
CCP needs to put sov into the planet’s. This is the last frontier not being fought over in EvE. New ships, structures, new resources. City building and industrywide management , this could be done by bears and the pvp players can fight over control. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/89 "2019-08-23T07:13:48Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > There is risk in everything in high sec You have such a short memory. I hate to break it to you but Trigs arent Belt Rats. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/90 "2019-08-23T09:53:54Z")
There’s certainly risk in joining a corp that he’s leading… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/91 "2019-08-23T10:00:07Z")
Well we both agreed scams were a risk to new players. ---
**Author:** ![Oh-my\_giddy\_aunt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oh-my_giddy_aunt/32/156820_2.png) [@Oh-my\_giddy\_aunt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oh-my_giddy_aunt)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/92 "2019-08-23T10:05:45Z")
Trigs aren’t belt rats but they do visit belts, so if belts is the only place someone has seen them they might think they were. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/93 "2019-08-23T10:11:43Z")
While this is true, the point that he was making was that suicide ganking should be removed as there is risk in everything in High Sec. I asked him what threat Belt Rats posed. Im happy enough that Trigs are a threat, though paying attention allows easy mitigation. Just like suicide ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/94 "2019-08-23T10:13:46Z")
This is true, but ignorance is no excuse when it comes from someone who claims to have been playing for over a decade. You also have to take into account that said player has a reputation for being a scammer, an abuser of new players, being grossly uninformed and is, in all likelihood, a serial liar. ---
**Author:** ![Oh-my\_giddy\_aunt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oh-my_giddy_aunt/32/156820_2.png) [@Oh-my\_giddy\_aunt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oh-my_giddy_aunt)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/95 "2019-08-23T10:14:36Z")
I can’t say I like a lot of the changes to the game in resent times, but funny enough Trig scouts from what I’ve seen of them so far I don’t have any issues with. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/96 "2019-08-23T10:17:03Z")
I like them, they poke afk pilots to death and appear out of now where, but are good for training new pilots to evade and go go go. I really hope this kind of enemy replaces Belt Rats in general, though they more or less exist to fill a gap players used to fill regularly with hot plasma filling. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/97 "2019-08-23T10:34:09Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You also have to take into account that said player has a reputation for being a scammer, an abuser of new players, being grossly uninformed and is, in all likelihood, a serial liar. Prove it, or shut up. You wanna talk about abuse, how about claiming things that are not true? K Thx Bye, Pleb. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/99 "2019-08-23T10:45:57Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Prove it, or shut up. > > You wanna talk about abuse, how about claiming things that are not true? K Thx Bye, Pleb. I said that you have a reputation, a reputation is based on opinion or a belief, many people are of the opinion that you damned yourself with the whole Solar Exchange situation. Furthermore an opinion or a belief can’t actually be proved, see science vs god. When you can accept the burden of proof for your own ridiculous claims then you can talk, until then you can piss in the wind. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > you claimed there is no risk in high sec I don’t remember @Ramona_McCandless claiming such a thing, I can remember Ramona disagreeing with your claim that there is risk in everything in hisec, a claim which was irrelevant as the conversation at the time was referring to player driven risk, which you seek to reduce by removing suicide ganking; one of the very few player driven risks left in hisec. Twat. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/100 "2019-08-23T10:57:55Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > I said that you have a reputation, a reputation is based on opinion or a belief, many people are of the opinion that you damned yourself with the whole Solar Exchange situation. Furthermore an opinion or a belief can’t actually be proved, see science vs god. You made a claim that i scammed and abused people, I did nothing of the sort. If you knew anything about me you’d know how immensely wrong that is. I founded that corporation purely on the intent of teaching people the game and helping them, in an effort to undo some of the damage you and your abusive friends implement on this game. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > I don’t remember @Ramona_McCandless claiming such a thing, I can remember Ramona disagreeing with your claim that there is risk in everything in hisec, a claim which was irrelevant as the conversation at the time was referring to player driven risk, which you seek to reduce by removing suicide ganking; one of the very few player driven risks left in hisec. > > Twat. He’s one of your goon buddies, like the other 3-4 of you. All of you have your panties in a twist because im coming for your idiotic form of game play. Don’t worry, There are two out comes of this that will happen, either 1) the game dies, in which case your stupidity ends, or 2) the game gets changed in ways that will correct the problems that i am advocating to ccp, in which case, your stupidity ends. you are fighting a losing game here, Like i told all of you goon scum, Im light years a head of you. you are welcome to think its arrogance, or what ever you want, but knowledge is knowledge, and i have a feeling ccp is in the mist of all of this paying attention, which for you my friends is very dangerous, for me, it means little (or did you forget i have not been playing?). I have nothing to lose, you, you will lose everything. Edit: btw, your goon scum friend is trying to hide behing rats as if some how changing the power of them will magically correct all of the games problems. That is the level of stupidity you are working on. Your not fooling anyone, not ccp, and definitely not me. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228/101 "2019-08-23T11:02:45Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > You made a claim that i scammed and abused people, I did nothing of the sort. If you knew anything about me you’d know how immensely wrong that is. No, I didn’t. I said that you have a reputation for doing those things. These two things are not the same, although the latter is easily [verified](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/1260). > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > He’s one of your goon buddies, like the other 3-4 of you Hahahahahahaha. Man, you’re so far off the mark it’s ridiculous. I’m not a goon, never have been a goon and in all likelihood never will be a goon. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinfoil-hat-active-ccp-falcon-wants-to-create-more-conflict/181228.md?page=6)