# Tinker-tank Bhaalgorn for Emerging Conduits

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940>\
**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [October 16, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940 "2019-10-16T12:20:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/41 "2019-11-05T16:31:34Z")

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He has no idea what he is talking about.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/42 "2019-11-05T16:47:44Z")

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A Ferrari is 100x as expensive as a regular car. That does not mean it is 100x safer.

Saying that a Golem is expensive, ergo it should be difficult to gank is a similar argument.

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/43 "2019-11-05T16:48:43Z")

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Marauders are kinda sold on their tanking abilities though.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/44 "2019-11-05T16:55:25Z")

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tanking pve, not pvp.

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**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/45 "2019-11-05T17:21:20Z")

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Some might disagree.

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/46 "2019-11-05T17:41:03Z")

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It was over in about 3 seconds.

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**Author:** ![Deffys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deffys/32/143372_2.png) [@Deffys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deffys)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/47 "2019-11-05T17:43:50Z")

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A Raven does them just fine, as does a Gila. You do not need a 2b+ ship to do this extremely easy content and any marauder in high-sec is an obvious gank target and knowing this you should have chosen a ship more suited to the task. There is no ‘balance issue’ with 30m of cats killing a marauder, you boated into system, warped into site and set up a giant neon sign saying “gank me”…I’m not sure what you thought would happen…

Your spiel about ‘rolling the dice’ just says to me you have a lot more isk than you do an idea of how to play this game or 30m of cats popping your ostentatious krab ship would be the obvious outcome and not a ‘balance issue’.

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/48 "2019-11-05T17:49:51Z")

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Gonna share that fit for a Raven then?

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**Author:** ![Deffys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deffys/32/143372_2.png) [@Deffys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deffys)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/49 "2019-11-05T17:54:27Z")

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You only need to tank 600dps max, it isn’t rocket science…

[Raven, Conduits]

Ballistic Control System II  
Ballistic Control System II  
Damage Control II  
Capacitor Flux Coil II  
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
EM Ward Field II  
Large Shield Booster II  
Shield Boost Amplifier II  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Knave Scoped Energy Nosferatu

Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I  
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II  
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

Valkyrie II x5

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/50 "2019-11-05T17:55:53Z")

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Danke.

Oh, and there seems to be politics involved too. As well as 0.8’s being a touch… lively. Interesting day 😃

As I’ve said the salt is in how easy it was. That was quite the shockah. Over in a couple of seconds if that. In a 0.8,

Will give the Raven a whirl.

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**Author:** ![Deffys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deffys/32/143372_2.png) [@Deffys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deffys)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/51 "2019-11-05T18:04:42Z")

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You can die in a 1.0 in the most expensive marauder you can imagine, also in seconds. This is why people say high-sec is more dangerous than other areas of space, there is nothing you can do to fight back until you are basically already dead and this should be the first thing you think about when building a ship to run high-sec activities, I could run these in a bling fit rattle, but why would I when all of the targets are cruiser and below and a gila is 1/5 or more of the price? Any gain in dps is lost warping between sites, I just can’t fathom why people are doing these in battleships, the raven fit is just an example to show it can be done cheap, but for the love of bob just use a Gila.

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/52 "2019-11-05T18:37:48Z")

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For me? Salvaging the site afterwards with Tractors & BLAH. Proper utility slot stuff.

But yes, very disappointing.

I’ll have to skill into a Gila.

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**Author:** ![Deffys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deffys/32/143372_2.png) [@Deffys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deffys)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/53 "2019-11-05T19:01:22Z")

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I tow 2 low sp alts around in passive shield gnosis’ 1 med shield RR, command burst and salvagers in the highs, just assist the drones to the Gila and the rats will shoot him most of the time and the RR will top you off if they get shirty on a gnosis. If you are doing this with 1 account I suspect the salvage isn’t worth the time.

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**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/54 "2019-11-05T19:10:12Z")

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It depends. As I’ve mentioned I’ve run these in a Loki. Not saying the loki is best. I was just exploring around in it when i decided to try them out, so it’s what I was flying.  
AC fit with 2 salvagers in the utility highs. I’d warp in, drop MTU, orbit MTU.  
I would both shoot rats and salvage wrecks as the MTU brought them in range.

Overall i averaged 8.5 minutes per site from landing to warping out. Typically I finished salvaging around the time the next emergent spawned or slightly before.

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**Author:** ![Deffys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deffys/32/143372_2.png) [@Deffys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deffys)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/55 "2019-11-05T19:18:45Z")

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True, but I can’t think of another ship with 2 or more utility highs that can run the site and I don’t consider overkill, there probably is one, I just don’t care enough to look tbh since I already have a setup (but if like you I just happened to have a Loki I probably would just use that) a Loki can be fairly cheap sure but if I was in a bad mood I’d gank you just to make you lose SP 👹 so there’s that…and as far as pve goes it’s basically a Gila anyway. _shrugs_

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**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/56 "2019-11-05T19:22:27Z")

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Well yea the Gila is boss for PVE.

> [@Deffys](#):
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> but if I was in a bad mood I’d gank you just to make you lose SP 👹

You could try 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/57 "2019-11-05T20:34:44Z")

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> [@Deffys](#):
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> I tow 2 low sp alts around in passive shield gnosis’ 1 med shield RR, command burst and salvagers in the highs, just assist the drones to the Gila and the rats will shoot him most of the time and the RR will top you off if they get shirty on a gnosis. If you are doing this with 1 account I suspect the salvage isn’t worth the time.

It was about 60m an hour. But… Dice-rolls, salvage, & a fun ship. In a 0.8. Content.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/58 "2019-11-05T20:36:04Z")

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In my bhaalgorn it was 100M/h, people in a vindi do 150M/h.  
salvage is worthless.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/59 "2019-11-06T08:41:47Z")

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> [@Deffys](#):
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> You only need to tank 600dps max, it isn’t rocket science…  
> [Raven, Conduits]

What missiles would you recommend ?

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tinker-tank-bhaalgorn-for-emerging-conduits/195940/60 "2019-11-06T09:54:01Z")

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Sounds like they need to move these anomalies to Null. Or something like them.

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