# To all Caldari sympathizers - a musing **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [May 11, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703 "2018-05-11T16:19:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Claudia\_Osyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claudia_osyn/32/387939_2.png) [@Claudia\_Osyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claudia_Osyn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/62 "2018-05-16T02:25:03Z")
This thread is going places… ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/63 "2018-05-16T02:28:47Z")
And that is why the Threaderation must be destoryed. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/64 "2018-05-16T21:04:42Z")
> [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](#): > > Errm… Do you have to say something more meaningful, perhaps, someday? ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/65 "2018-05-16T21:35:33Z")
OK, how about: A true soldier seeks to defeat their enemy, whereas a monster calls for their wanton destruction no matter the cost. How’s that? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/66 "2018-05-16T23:01:09Z")
> [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](#): > > OK, how about: > > A true soldier seeks to defeat their enemy, whereas a monster calls for their wanton destruction no matter the cost. > > How’s that? Saying things doesn’t make you a monster. Doing things does. ---
**Author:** ![Claudia\_Osyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claudia_osyn/32/387939_2.png) [@Claudia\_Osyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claudia_Osyn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/67 "2018-05-16T23:05:15Z")
Maybe, but advocating for such monsters speaks volumes about ones character. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/68 "2018-05-16T23:06:28Z")
> [@Claudia\_Osyn](#): > > Maybe, but advocating for such monsters speaks volumes about ones character. Those who only speak, but don’t do - they are just paper tigers. I don’t have respect to them. I respect even monsters more than empty loudmouths. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/69 "2018-05-16T23:11:25Z")
I’d say that considering people monsters for mere words is just a primitive bigotry, nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/70 "2018-05-17T00:13:44Z")
Espousing monstrosity speaks to the speaker’s character. ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/71 "2018-05-17T14:57:11Z")
As a Caldari citizen I would gladly partner up with the Federation to address a mutual existential threat of any kind. I don’t need to forget the past in order to do that. Perhaps engaging in a number of these shared campaigns would teach our people a modicum of trust? Sadly joint State / Federation efforts in the past have often ended in disillusion and umbrage. ---
**Author:** ![CaseyLP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caseylp/32/291944_2.png) [@CaseyLP](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CaseyLP)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/72 "2018-05-17T15:14:20Z")
One of these days we will put aside our differences, but it is not reasonable in the current state of the galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/73 "2018-05-17T15:56:35Z")
> [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](#): > > As a Caldari citizen I would gladly partner up with the Federation to address a mutual existential threat of any kind. I don’t need to forget the past in order to do that. > > Perhaps engaging in a number of these shared campaigns would teach our people a modicum of trust? Sadly joint State / Federation efforts in the past have often ended in disillusion and umbrage. The Federation itself is the existential threat, and every citizen know it. Trusting them is the same as trusting someone like Makoto Priano, or someone yelling in Jita local about selling price way cheaper than market. It is highly, irrationally unwise. ---
**Author:** ![kul\_Shaishi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kul_shaishi/32/245841_2.png) [@kul\_Shaishi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kul_Shaishi)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/74 "2018-05-17T16:40:45Z")
The Diana Kim it self is the existential threat, and every citizen know it. Trusting them is the same as trusting someone like Diana Kim, or someone yelling in Jita local about selling price way cheaper than market. It is highly, irrationally unwise. See I simply manipulated your words ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/75 "2018-05-17T16:42:53Z")
> [@kul\_Shaishi](#): > > The Diana Kimitself is the existential threat, and every citizen know it. Trusting them is the same as trusting someone like Diana Kim, or someone yelling in Jita local about selling price way cheaper than market. It is highly, irrationally unwise. > > See I simply manipulated your words Such degree of slander and public lies shall not be acceptable in civilized society. Obviously, these words of @kul_Shaishi are nothing, but delusions and groundless lies, and she’s doing that not for the first time. ---
**Author:** ![kul\_Shaishi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kul_shaishi/32/245841_2.png) [@kul\_Shaishi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kul_Shaishi)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/76 "2018-05-17T16:52:11Z")
Here are some good advice from the thirty-Six Stratagems If all else fails, retreat (走為上計／走为上计, Zǒu wéi shàng jì) ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/77 "2018-05-17T16:57:49Z")
You can retreat, if you want. But it doesn’t mean you will manage to hide forever from responsibility for your slanders and foul words. The justice will find you, will it be on the tip of a spear or a missile or on the end of the barrels of a firing squad. And have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![Claudia\_Osyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claudia_osyn/32/387939_2.png) [@Claudia\_Osyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claudia_Osyn)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/78 "2018-05-17T17:05:20Z")
Because this is an effective means of silencing capsuleers… ---
**Author:** ![kul\_Shaishi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kul_shaishi/32/245841_2.png) [@kul\_Shaishi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kul_Shaishi)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/79 "2018-05-17T17:05:57Z")
围魏救赵, Wéi Wèi jiù Zhào ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/80 "2018-05-17T17:36:07Z")
> [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](#): > > As a Caldari citizen I would gladly partner up with the Federation to address a mutual existential threat of any kind. I don’t need to forget the past in order to do that. Agreed on that. That, and your later point, too. ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703/81 "2018-05-17T17:50:34Z")
I think we’ve mastered that threat now, Diana. They can’t break us and they know they can’t - so like a caracal that pounces and misses, they sun themselves and claim they never intended to. Never forgive? Sure. Never forget? Absolutely. Never move on? That’s bad for the State, Citizen. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-caldari-sympathizers-a-musing/75703.md?page=5)