# To all foreigners wanting to understand the Minmatar, happy Liberation Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [July 10, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-foreigners-wanting-to-understand-the-minmatar-happy-liberation-day/319433 "2021-07-10T14:46:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 28
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-foreigners-wanting-to-understand-the-minmatar-happy-liberation-day/319433/28 "2021-07-12T21:16:03Z")
> [@Amicia\_Cora](#): > > Look again at what I said, the very thing you quoted. I am suggesting that the Republic _respects the shared frameworks that our leaders have developed_. The Yulai Accords affirmed the sovereignty of Holy Amarr over Kahah III. That was a domestic matter for the Empire and the Empire alone to resolve. His Royal Highness Sarum’s campaign on Floseswin IV was likewise conducted in accordance with the terms outlined within the CEMWPA. You are lying. Specifically, you lie when you assert, “I am suggesting that the Republic _respects the shared frameworks that our leaders have developed_.” In fact, you suggested no such thing. Rather, you explicitly said: > [@Amicia\_Cora](#): > > Frameworks that, yes, you undermined severely during the Elder War, but ones that we have nevertheless since fought tirelessly to rebuild. With that statement, you accused the Republic of undermining those international frameworks. Furthermore, you assert that ‘we’—from context and tone, clearly meaning ‘The Amarr Empire’—have ‘fought tirelessly to rebuild’ those frameworks. But is that truly the case? Or does the Empire attempt to wield CONCORD and Yulai like a sword and shield? Yes, Kahah III was an internal matter. That doesn’t mean other nations don’t get to express their disapproval. By using diplomatic and economic means to express that disapproval, the Republic _did_ respect the shared framework of the Yulai Accords. This sort of response is how nations provide disincentives for behavior they find objectionable in other nations. And let’s keep in mind that, in their execution, those sanctions are a prohibition against Republic corporations trading with the Amarr. They make no claim to enact legal consequences against subjects of the Empire, only citizens of the Republic. Which makes them a matter of _internal_ law under your framework. If the Empire’s internal matters aren’t appropriate fodder for international response, then the Republic’s internal matters—like restricting the travel and activities of its citizens—enjoy similar protection. Surely, the Empire, so adamant that internal matters be above international reaction, would respect that, right? To do otherwise would be hypocritical. The Empire, after all, is not _entitled_ to the Republic’s trade, and unless you can show me the specific language in the Accords that says they are, then the Republic is entirely within their rights to withhold it when they feel the Empire’s actions warrant such a response. You know, in accordance with the shared framework that our leaders have developed. And yet, the Empire claims that not getting our goods and money from us is an act of aggression. And they pressed that case in the CONCORD Inner Circle. To attempt to use the Inner Circle in that manner demonstrates a _profound_ disrespect for the institution. CONCORD is meant to resolve disputes, not allow itself to be used as a bludgeon against the insecurities of the cluster’s second largest economy. And then there’s Floseswin. In fact, your claim that Sarum’s campaign of _ground invasion_ on Floseswin IV was conducted in accordance with the CEMWPA is completely spurious. If that were the case, CONCORD’s Inner Circle would not have been arguing about exactly that question for [over a year](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/galactic-hour-news-roundup-yoiul-festival-trading-and-talks-edition/). > [@](#): > > **Inner Circle Starts Fourth Round of Peace Talks on New Protocols for Militia Warzone Planets and Orbitals** > > Yulai, Genesis – CONCORD’s Inner Circle has formally begun a fourth round of peace talks aimed at resolving the recent escalations in militia warzone fighting and occupations on planetary and other orbital bodies. The urgency of the talks is due to the ongoing conflict in the Amarr-Minmatar militia warzone, particularly the House Sarum invasion of the Minmatar colony world of Floseswin IV. > > However, a number of recent incidents on militia warzone planets, moons and other orbital bodies have exposed shortcomings in the interstellar legal framework and conflict resolution protocols. A number of loopholes and gaps, that were until recently covered by mutual understandings and informal pacts, have been torn open by incidents such as the FDU’s pacification of riots by Caldari citizens in Iralaja system, Seykal Clan attacks on Huola VI, and notably the lengthy corporate warfare and asset removal operations carried out by Lai Dai Protection Services on Intaki V. The full-scale invasion and high-intensity warfare on Floseswin IV is the worst incident yet in terms of the level of interstellar conflict in the border zones and raised tensions between all the CONCORD powers. > > Reports from Yulai suggest that the Inner Circle is establishing a framework that will provide time for a number of initiatives being promoted by the Gallente Federation and Caldari State to proceed while the CONCORD Assembly prepares draft protocols that may form the basis of addendums to the Yulai Convention and Accords, together with significant amendments to the Emergency Militia War Powers Act of YC110. Note the context there: The Floseswin IV situation is cited in the 2nd paragraph as the worst incident among ‘a number of loopholes and gaps’ that have ‘exposed shortcomings in the interstellar legal framework’. That means, no, it is _not_ in accordance with the CEMWPA, it’s just not explicitly in _violation_ of it. It is, in fact, a gray area, where treaties drafted to regulate the activities _of capsuleers in space_ are suddenly found to not cover whether or not the baseliner forces of a major national military invading a planet and enslaving the population is legal, or an act of war _well_ beyond the scope of the Militia War Powers Act. Which means, again, it is the _Amarr_ who are not respecting the shared frameworks that our leaders have developed. Both through the invasion of Floseswin IV, and in their insistence that Republic economic sanctions are an act of aggression against the Empire. Fortunately, CONCORD has, so far, refused to kowtow to Amarr’s attempts to undermine the international framework and the institutions built upon it. But really, anyone attempting to twist Yulai to that extent can hardly be said to be ‘fighting tirelessly’ to rebuild and uphold that framework, or those institutions. > [@Amicia\_Cora](#): > > Perhaps the importance of keeping one’s word once given is not a concept given much recognition within your tribal cultures. You know, I admit, this one almost made me mad. But then I remembered that I’m dealing with the Amarr. It’s alright. I can forgive you your incapacity to understand just how extreme an insult you’ve tried to lob at me. It’s not your fault, after all. I just hope that some day, you’ll have a chance to recover from the Empire’s conditioning and the rampant stupidity in inflicts upon you. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-foreigners-wanting-to-understand-the-minmatar-happy-liberation-day/319433)._