# To all the pilots complaining about hi sec gankers **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [November 17, 2025, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047 "2025-11-17T08:00:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/1 "2025-11-17T08:00:36Z")
just take it back to them, its not that hard… might take time.. [Related Kills | Iyen-Oursta | 2025-11-17 07:00 | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/related/30002642/202511170700/) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/2 "2025-11-17T08:13:30Z")
You can insure your ships through Frostpacker before you decide to go out ganking and if your ships are blown up via CONCORD then if your ship was insured then you would receive your payout based on your insurance policy with Frostpacker. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/4 "2025-11-17T08:18:27Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > You can insure your ships through Frostpacker lol.. ---
**Author:** ![Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoutin_on_empty/32/479066_2.png) [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoutin_On_Empty)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/5 "2025-11-17T08:42:35Z")
Highsec ganking complaints are basically the most reliable constant in New Eden. And look, I get it — getting volleyed in 0.8 by a pile of Catalysts feels cheap. But the uncomfortable truth is this: ganking exists because players keep creating the exact conditions that make ganking profitable, easy, and low-effort. If people stopped autopiloting, overfitting cargo, or flying 3B in a ship that costs less than the implants they’re wearing, ganking would dry up from pure lack of income. Players create the ecosystem gankers thrive in. CCP just lets the sandbox do what sandboxes do. Ganking isn’t “low risk” — it’s predictable risk. Losing your ship is guaranteed every single time. The fact that some people are organized enough to turn that into a business model isn’t bad design, it’s player ingenuity. If someone wants a safer experience, that’s valid. But asking CCP to remove ganking from highsec is like asking for a theme park inside a game that was literally built around the premise that nowhere is fully safe — including the space labeled ‘High Security’. That’s the point. That’s the identity of EVE. At the end of the day: Highsec ganking isn’t the problem — people wanting highsec to behave like low-effort single-player content is the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/6 "2025-11-17T08:50:31Z")
> [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](#): > > At the end of the day: Highsec ganking isn’t the problem — people wanting highsec to behave like low-effort single-player content is the problem. Cannot be repeated enough. People who “just want to be left alone” are playing the wrong game. It’s like dropping into a CallOfDuty Warzone™ match and complaining that other people shoot you while you just want to collect some nice items from the ground and level your weapons. Game doesn’t work that way. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/7 "2025-11-17T08:52:46Z")
Some Capsuleers rather be left alone in highsec but will try to protect themselves from being ganker. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/8 "2025-11-17T09:30:15Z")
i get it why they wanna do that… just find a high sec island in low sec. but then they find something else to ■■■■■ about. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/9 "2025-11-17T11:10:33Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > People who “just want to be left alone” are playing the wrong game. I saw an epic hour long rant the other day by some guy in what was in any case a free Venture, who admitted he was AFK but demanded that he be ‘left alone’. Some people simply don’t grasp that they are playing the most dystopian and brutal game there is….not Teletubbies Meet My Little Pony In Farmville. And long may CCP ignore those who want EVE converted into such. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/10 "2025-11-17T21:50:18Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > And long may CCP ignore those who want EVE converted into such. Sadly, CCP caters to the carebears. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_Mason](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_mason/32/480330_2.png) [@Admiral\_Mason](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_Mason)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/11 "2025-11-17T22:09:10Z")
Good work! Stay on it, you are saving haulers with your efforts, highsec salutes you! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/12 "2025-11-18T03:40:13Z")
damn bro u are a warrior ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_Mason](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_mason/32/480330_2.png) [@Admiral\_Mason](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_Mason)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/13 "2025-11-18T04:05:10Z")
You should use the Thunderchild ship instead of Skybreaker and you will kill all those Talos so easy and save freighters along the way, win win! ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/14 "2025-11-18T04:12:05Z")
Uh huh ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/15 "2025-11-18T04:13:10Z")
They nerfed one of my favorite ships this expansion ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/16 "2025-11-19T14:09:14Z")
TSK.. The ships that can counter Hishsec Ganking ships was already produced from the Triglavian Expansion all along. If only dumb care bears used their brains. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/17 "2025-11-19T18:43:10Z")
my lil “tactic” is already being copied by russian pilots. and badly… 10 out of 15 ships and no pods caught. Often imitated but never replicated ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/18 "2025-11-19T22:08:14Z")
Higsec Gankers has -10 sec status before. The rules was changed to cater the wishes of care bears to nerf Suicide Ganking but backfired on their faces. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/19 "2025-11-19T22:20:20Z")
[quote] Higsec Gankers has -10 sec status [/quote] You what? ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/20 "2025-11-20T18:30:17Z")
i got ganked in a pvp fit raptor before.. like 40mil.. i was confused… reshipped.. headed back out.. i get ganking for profit.. but for no real reason is a bit weird ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/21 "2025-11-20T18:53:12Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > for no real reason Creating and witnessing pretty explosions is reason enough. 🤔 Welcome to EVE! 😉 [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047.md?page=2)