# To all the pilots complaining about hi sec gankers **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [November 17, 2025, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047 "2025-11-17T08:00:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/42 "2025-11-29T00:51:43Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > It’s completely legal to keep a ship from warping off that has no counter in High Sec unless you have a very fast alt that can bump the trapped ship clear. Uh, last time I checked the bumped ship will instawarp off after 180 seconds? Even if still bumped and not aligned. That was the counter to bumping, one can’t just bump you forever. I understand that technically it’s not something _you_ can do yourself to counter it, but nonetheless it is a game mechanic against bumpers. Unless CCP has removed that or something. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/43 "2025-11-29T01:04:08Z")
It’s true. Bumping has its limit which is a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/44 "2025-11-29T01:23:46Z")
One of the endless nerfs to ganking that the carebears assured us would solve all the problems with ganking, but ultimately did nothing and here we are in “ganking is an issue” thread #8,745,398,112,963. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/45 "2025-11-29T03:50:15Z")
Why would I be? Those are not my gankers that you whored. I get whored at Jita all the time but the players who do that don’t come to forum writing how they nailed it to me pretending they achieved anything. Because they didn’t. You didn’t. I am simply naming the things their right names. Now if you actually made them fail, and by that I mean that they failed because your intervention, not because they miscalculated the damage and failed because their target was too tanky, then if you managed that or if you stole their loot then you would achieved something and you could righteously say that you “took it back to them”. But again, you didn’t. > [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](#): > > Killing miners and haulers is no different. Sure it is. There is one crucial difference that you seem not able to grasp. Their ship will not be destroyed if we aren’t there to gank them. Whereas if you weren’t there to whore, those Taloses would be destroyed anyway and their pods self-destructed outside or inside station anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_infomorph/32/489149_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Infomorph)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/46 "2025-11-29T05:48:46Z")
In fact if CONCORD appears on your KM whatsoever, you played no part in that battle. The moment CONCORD appears, the gank is over, they either killed their target or didn’t, and your presence on the KM, even if you get 90% of the damage, was utterly irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/47 "2025-11-29T06:24:49Z")
Getting killed by concord is a pve kill.. getting on that kill with a hit turns it into a pvp loss.. Its been that way since concord was introduced. Otherwise kills dont count with a npc hit showing up. Inc belt and anomaly sites etc etc ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_infomorph/32/489149_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Infomorph)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/48 "2025-11-29T06:44:07Z")
I don’t think you understood what I said. Let me rephrase it for you. If CONCORD appears, the ganker has survived your attack. When CONCORD shows up, the gank is over, even if you had the ganker down to 1% hull, the outcome is exactly the same as if you hadn’t been there at all. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/49 "2025-11-29T07:32:40Z")
I think he thinks he is doing damage to the ganker because the kill “counts” for some zkillboard whatever. Really no idea why it matters. Perhaps you could say you inflicteds some “mental damage” to the ganker like me who is not subscribed to zkillboard and thus posting only kills and not his losses. But despite I post manually I can care less about loses on my killboard. I don’t think who does. And the ganker that OP killed is subscribed to zkill and thus his loses, even to NPC, are posted automatically. It just makes no sense, OP sees an achievements where there are none. But then, I guess most so called antigankers does. Otherwise they wouldn’t be wasting time for it. The classic AG mindset: AG orbits a gate where ganker is sitting at or is likely to arrive to gank for 3 hours. Then the ganker docks or logs out because he ran out of his time that day and there wasn’t anything to kill. AG thinks “hahaha he finally docked, I won!”. This seems to be similar story… ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/50 "2025-11-29T08:13:16Z")
As long as its called high sec but pvp is on you will get complaints. Its like selling a heater that produces cold. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/51 "2025-11-29T08:36:17Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > despite I post manually I can care less about loses on my killboard. Bro come on. If you don’t care, go automatic. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/0/5/b059ec1a37579be936adfbd8b3ae495e332f8430.png) ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/52 "2025-11-29T09:22:31Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > If you don’t care, go automatic. I don’t care about random loss posted by someone who whored on me or who legitimately antiganked me. That doesn’t mean I want to give free intel and plague my killboard by dozens of rookie ships everyday when I am pre-pulling systems. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/53 "2025-11-29T10:15:02Z")
Don’t pull concord its an exploit ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/54 "2025-11-29T11:04:14Z")
99% of ganking complaints would stop if 0.5 - 1.0 is no longer referred to as high sec ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/55 "2025-11-29T13:49:24Z")
100% of ganking complaints would go away if carebears didn’t read “high security” as “total security” the issue 100% exists between the ears of the carebears. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/56 "2025-11-29T14:13:18Z")
You are like a worse version of @QuakeGod ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/57 "2025-11-29T16:28:21Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > I don’t care… That doesn’t mean I want to give free intel and plague my killboard by dozens of rookie ships everyday when I am pre-pulling systems. Nobody is gathering intel on you, and you aren’t prepulling either. You are inputting your kills manually because you are embarrassed by the CONCORD lossmails which might otherwise “plague” your killboard. This is why every antiganker should be encouraged to whore on your lossmails, because you actually DO care, even though you are here pretending you don’t. The antigankers DO actually make a difference, even when they do 0% damage, because you don’t like it. I encourage every antiganker to stand up and do what they can, every little bit helps, don’t get discouraged by gankbear lies! F.L.Y. S.A.F.E. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/58 "2025-11-29T16:34:52Z")
> [@Adada\_Tuesday](#): > > 99% of ganking complaints would stop if 0.5 - 1.0 is no longer referred to as high sec I call it Aikospace, or (in Amarr) Aikotopia. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/59 "2025-11-30T02:58:59Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Nobody is gathering intel on you, and you aren’t prepulling either. You are clearly you’re of the mind set that killing miners, haulers and smart bombing is real pvp because you are winning. ya might wanna change your mindset simp ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/60 "2025-11-30T03:01:06Z")
I am winning, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-all-the-pilots-complaining-about-hi-sec-gankers/501047/61 "2025-11-30T03:23:50Z")
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