# To end The War

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [September 2, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511 "2017-09-02T15:58:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lunarisse_aspenstar/32/478487_2.png) [@Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lunarisse_Aspenstar)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/406 "2017-09-23T16:12:35Z")

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Yes, i think I taught that to Miss Jenneth (the fishing definition). Interesting how terms can carry over into other settings!

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**Author:** ![Andreus\_Ixiris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andreus_ixiris/32/498273_2.png) [@Andreus\_Ixiris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andreus_Ixiris)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/407 "2017-09-23T21:37:11Z")

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> [@Makoto\_Priano](#):
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> Pilots might respect your prattling about your rank a tad bit more if you spent time growing a corporation and becoming a power in your own right.

Don’t count on it.

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**Author:** ![Andreus\_Ixiris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andreus_ixiris/32/498273_2.png) [@Andreus\_Ixiris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andreus_Ixiris)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/408 "2017-09-23T23:48:34Z")

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You know, actually, while I’m here, let me lay down just a little bit of Intaki wisdom I’ve gained in my old age. Kim, here is some news you will neither like nor most likely accept:

You have already lost this war.

No, I don’t mean the State, the State Protectorate or the Caldari people. They’re doing just fine. I mean you, specifically, Diana Kim, have already lost this war, because the Gallente Federation lives in your head rent-free. They’re almost the only thing that you ever talk about.

How many times have you screamed on the IGS about how the Federation must be destroyed? How long have you been doing it for? It must be the better part of ten years, and it certainly _feels_ that long. And how much effect has your yelling had on the Federation? Has it ever even come close to the brink of destruction? No. Not once. It survived having swathes of its northern low-security space taken away. It survived an all-out assault by Uriam Kador’s personal fleet. It survived the machinations of the Serpentis, the boiling hatred of Heth and the Provists, the cataclysm of the Seylinn Incident, the appearence of the Sleepers and the Drifters. Gods and spirits, it’s even survived Mentas Blaque and Jacus Roden.

What, ultimately, has all your yelling on the IGS achieved? You clearly haven’t convinced many people of the righteousness of your cause, otherwise you wouldn’t feel the need to constantly repeat yourself time and again. You’ve turned hatred of the Federation and anything even tangientally related to the Federation (such as, say, the Minmatar) into your only defining characteristic. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that you hate the Federation more than you love the State - that’s certainly the impression your behaviour gives off.

I admit it, Kim - I used to hate you just as much as you hate the Federation. You used to make my blood boil, and I desired nothing more than seeing you dead. But nowadays, I don’t hate you, because there’s not enough of you there to hate. You’re sort of empty, a one-note person, a flat character. Hating you contributed nothing to my life, accomplished none of my goals and only brought me sadness. I’m glad that I stopped. It was such a relief when I looked at myself and I realised that you have no ability to impact my life in any meaningful way. You can rage and scream at the Federation all you want and the Federation isn’t going to vanish. It’s not even going to notice.

I’m going to give a million to one odds that you won’t understand what I’m saying to you here. You’re going to dismiss me with a hail of insults, or else you’re not even have the courage to reply to my points at all. In ten minutes you’ll have forgotten every word I wrote. Then in a few days you’ll make another thread demanding the end of the Federation, and again you’ll be frustrated wondering why most people mock you and the Federation stubbornly refuses to collapse. You’ll feel a sense of powerlessness and frustration - the same way you always do when you make one of these threads - and you’ll wonder why you always feel this way. You’ll wonder why you’re stuck in a loop.

And I’ll take no pleasure in being proven right.

But I’ll still be right.

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**Author:** ![Sah\_Phyre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sah_phyre/32/378085_2.png) [@Sah\_Phyre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sah_Phyre)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/409 "2017-09-24T06:33:33Z")

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Never thought I’d see the day I’d agree with something Andreus Ixiris says, of all people. What happened to the – no offense – rather abrasive with-us-or-against-us Federation hardliner of… about 5-7 years ago, give or take?

I certainly don’t mean to say that this accumulated wisdom of yours isn’t a positive change, of course, just… surprising.

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**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/410 "2017-09-24T07:17:26Z")

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If I could like this a million times, I would. You hit the nail firmly on the head. Bravo.

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**Author:** ![Andreus\_Ixiris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andreus_ixiris/32/498273_2.png) [@Andreus\_Ixiris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andreus_Ixiris)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/411 "2017-09-24T11:36:01Z")

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People change, Sah.

Except, apparently, for Diana Kim.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/412 "2017-10-01T13:00:30Z")

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> [@Andreus\_Ixiris](#):
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> You know, actually, while I’m here, let me lay down just a little bit of Intaki wisdom I’ve gained in my old age. Kim, here is some news you will neither like nor most likely accept:
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> You have already lost this war.

Ba. Ha. Ha. Ha.

> [@Andreus\_Ixiris](#):
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> No, I don’t mean the State, the State Protectorate or the Caldari people. They’re doing just fine. I mean you, specifically, Diana Kim, have already lost this war, because the Gallente Federation lives in your head rent-free. They’re almost the only thing that you ever talk about.

You clearly have no idea what you’re speaking about, little boy. What’s inside my head is far beyond your comprehension levels.

> [@Andreus\_Ixiris](#):
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> What, ultimately, has all your yelling on the IGS achieved? You clearly haven’t convinced many people of the righteousness of your cause, otherwise you wouldn’t feel the need to constantly repeat yourself time and again.

I am just opening people eyes and let them see at the events from the other side, without the farce of gallente propaganda that coats everything in its dreamy set of fight for “freeduhms” and “democrazies”.

I want people to start to think outside of federal myths.

I want people to start to see things clearly as they are without any subjective interpretations.

> [@Andreus\_Ixiris](#):
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> But I’ll still be right.

Dream on. 🤣  
I can’t open eyes of those, whose brain is dead, who considers themselves “right” invariantly.

But I’ll try for the rest.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Galente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_galente/32/383984_2.png) [@Jason\_Galente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Galente)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/413 "2017-10-01T13:09:18Z")

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I feel dumber for having read this.

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/414 "2017-10-01T14:26:28Z")

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Shes not really wrong, Andreus isn’t a psychiatrist to my knowledge, so understanding whats going on in her abnormal mind isnt exactly likely (for a licensed therapist either id imagine). Though she seems to lose sight of the fact that causing people to wince from all the shouting defeats the purpose of “trying to open peoples eyes.”

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**Author:** ![Andreus\_Ixiris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andreus_ixiris/32/498273_2.png) [@Andreus\_Ixiris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andreus_Ixiris)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/415 "2017-10-01T14:27:01Z")

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> [@Andreus\_Ixiris](#):
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> I’m going to give a million to one odds that you won’t understand what I’m saying to you here. You’re going to dismiss me with a hail of insults, or else you’re not even have the courage to reply to my points at all.
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> And I’ll take no pleasure in being proven right.
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> But I’ll still be right.

Called it.

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**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/416 "2017-10-04T08:42:39Z")

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You cannot be wrong about Heth when you’re always Alternatively Right.

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**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/417 "2017-10-04T19:36:21Z")

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> [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](#):
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> Alternatively Right

Please stop reminding me of our more particularly embarrassing politicians.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/418 "2017-10-18T03:23:32Z")

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> [@Andreus\_Ixiris](#):
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> I’m going to give a million to one odds that you won’t understand what I’m saying to you here. You’re going to dismiss me with a hail of insults, or else you’re not even have the courage to reply to my points at all.
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> And I’ll take no pleasure in being proven right.
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> But I’ll still be right.
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> Called it.

I repeat one more time:

I can’t open eyes of those, whose brain is so numb and stiff, that they consider themselves always right invariantly.

Please be “right” somewhere else.

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/419 "2017-10-18T14:38:11Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> I can’t open eyes of those, whose brain is so numb and stiff, that they consider themselves always right invariantly.

Presented without further comment.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/420 "2017-10-18T15:59:06Z")

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> [@Makoto\_Priano](#):
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> Presented without further comment.

Well, indeed, I have just said that. But since you didn’t comment, but instead brought attention to this, I will.

It also perfectly describes those, who were caught on obvious slanders, were called for them, even challenged, and while being pointed at them multiple times, still can’t accept consequences.

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**Author:** ![Slayer\_Liberator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/slayer_liberator/32/398086_2.png) [@Slayer\_Liberator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Slayer_Liberator)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/421 "2017-10-18T19:57:00Z")

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You’re very good at describing yourself

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/422 "2017-10-18T20:07:36Z")

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> [@Slayer\_Liberator](#):
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> You’re very good at describing yourself

Considering I haven’t described myself, I’d recommend asking your clone technicians why you have such vivid hallucinations. It’s not healthy and dangerous while piloting.

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**Author:** ![Slayer\_Liberator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/slayer_liberator/32/398086_2.png) [@Slayer\_Liberator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Slayer_Liberator)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/423 "2017-10-18T20:18:36Z")

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If I believed that those statements didn’t describe you then I would be worried about hallucinations.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/424 "2017-10-18T21:42:46Z")

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> [@Slayer\_Liberator](#):
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> If I believed that those statements didn’t describe you then I would be worried about hallucinations.

Please stop writing until you get treatment. It is annoying and counterproductive, besides, ruins your reputation.

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**Author:** ![Slayer\_Liberator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/slayer_liberator/32/398086_2.png) [@Slayer\_Liberator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Slayer_Liberator)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-end-the-war/21511/425 "2017-10-18T22:36:59Z")

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You should take your own advice.

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