# To the Kahah Free Army, and to all our brothers and sisters in Darkness

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [November 27, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241 "2018-11-27T15:18:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/1 "2018-11-27T15:18:19Z")

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To the Kahah Free Army;  
and to all Brothers and Sisters still in Darkness.

I hope this message finds you, whatever way, despite the orbital sieges, despite your Masters trying to keep it from you.

Over a century ago now the Minmatar, then enslaved as a whole by the Empires of the Evil God, seized the moment of the Empire’s weakness, and the first light after the Long Night shone in the formation of the Republic.

Another moment of weakness is happening now. The events in Kahah have brought to broad daylight the brutal reality of slavery, the blatant untruth of the pretty words about beneficial Reclaiming, the ties of the Lords of the Kindgom to Blood Raiders and murder. Eyes of all the nations are on you.

The Empire can no longer pretend that slavery is a matter internal to them; it has become clear others must and can interfere. First steps have been taken; more will come; and loyal capsuleers of the Tribes stand ready to support when the time will come.

Rise now! Use this moment of hesitation - use it everywhere! When histories of freedom will be written a century from now, Kahah’s name will take its place right next to Vak’Atioth.

_Never again_ another Long Night!

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**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/2 "2018-11-27T18:45:45Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> Kahah’s name will take its place right next to Vak’Atioth

More likely right next to Starkmanir.

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/3 "2018-11-27T18:49:21Z")

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Hopefully your name next to Arkon Ardishapur among the people bashed to death with a Khumaak.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/4 "2018-11-27T18:51:37Z")

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> [@Mitara\_Newelle](#):
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> More likely right next to Starkmanir.

Such spite, did I hit close to home?

Yet also Starkmanir have been freed.

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**Author:** ![Pol\_Macsliebh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pol_macsliebh/32/376245_2.png) [@Pol\_Macsliebh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pol_Macsliebh)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/5 "2018-11-27T18:55:09Z")

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You have my Ship…

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/6 "2018-11-27T19:00:43Z")

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While many of the Kahah Free Army are indeed of Minmatar ancestry, and others too in the Kingdom, there is also the question of the non-Minmatar KFA members, Ealurians and such, who have no homeworld or home state to speak of.

What of their plight ?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/7 "2018-11-27T19:02:34Z")

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> [@Valerie\_Valate](#):
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> Pol wants his ship back Elsebeth.

Get to the off-topic thread with that, will you please?

An international incident of this scale is not topic for frivolous jokes, no matter how enjoyable or funny on their own right.

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/8 "2018-11-27T19:27:24Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> Such spite, did I hit close to home?

What I believe my lady wished to intone was that the Kahah Free Army’s chances of merely surviving, let alone achieving anything of import, is next to zero. Normally we would attribute its existence to sheer stupidity stemming from hopelessness and fear, but something strikes me personally as curious.

You make this address as though the only ones who make up its membership are slaves of Minmatar origin, but this is not the case. There are Khanid military defectors fighting with them as well. Whatever could possibly cause this turn of events is of interest to me, as I am sure it would be to our liege Lord Arrach Sarum and his inquisition.

Whatever the case, we suggest that you cease making inflammatory statements such as this one until the true situation may be ascertained. As for us, we eagerly await our liege’s arrival and news of answers he might glean.

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**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/9 "2018-11-27T19:30:15Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> You make this address as though the only ones who make up its membership are slaves of Minmatar origin, but this is not the case. There are Khanid military defectors fighting with them as well.

The Minmatar and Imperial subjects finally came together on an issue: their hatred for the Khanid King.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/10 "2018-11-27T19:33:19Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> You make this address as though the only ones who make up its membership are slaves of Minmatar origin, but this is not the case. There are Khanid military defectors fighting with them as well.

I address _my_ people.

That is not to say I am not both proud of and hopeful about the good Khanid people who have finally seen the evil in their Kingdom. May many more follow them, and may the fire of their spirit spread all over the space of the Evil God.

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**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/11 "2018-11-27T19:36:55Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> Such spite, did I hit close to home?

Hardly. Your rhetoric is going to get ‘your’ people killed.

> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> Yet also Starkmanir have been freed.

What’s left of them.

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**Author:** ![Armast\_Darkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armast_darkar/32/173723_2.png) [@Armast\_Darkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armast_Darkar)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/12 "2018-11-27T19:37:28Z")

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I also add my own hope that a similar fire will kindle in the Mandate, to finally excise the cancer of the Khanid Kingdom and the corrupt reign of King Farokh Khanid III. A reign which was defended by the so-called “loyalists” of PIE and the Newelle Family, the latter of which put ground troops on standby to support Royal Khanid military forces on Kahah III.

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**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/13 "2018-11-27T19:39:30Z")

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Why is Loyalist in quotes? Are they scare quotes?

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**Author:** ![Armast\_Darkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armast_darkar/32/173723_2.png) [@Armast\_Darkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armast_Darkar)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/14 "2018-11-27T19:41:05Z")

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A true loyalist would see the evil of the Kingdom and proudly and publicly oppose it, not stand with it to bolster its defense.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/15 "2018-11-27T19:41:41Z")

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> [@Mitara\_Newelle](#):
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> What’s left of them.

What is this but _more_ of Khanid terror talk? Do not fight for your freedom, for you will surely all be purged?

And coming from PIE Inc, too.

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**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/16 "2018-11-27T19:47:42Z")

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Perhaps you are right, Ms Rhiannon, that the King _ **won’t** _ react with a heavy hand if the situation escalates.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/17 "2018-11-27T19:48:25Z")

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> [@Mitara\_Newelle](#):
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> Perhaps you are right, Ms Rhiannon, that the King _ **won’t** _ react with a heavy hand if the situation escalates.

I am pretty sure the King will.

I am also pretty sure he won’t be the only one, then, if he does.

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/18 "2018-11-27T19:51:44Z")

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> [@Armast\_Darkar](#):
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> A reign which was defended by the so-called “loyalists” of PIE and the Newelle Family, the latter of which put ground troops on standby to support Royal Khanid military forces on Kahah III.

We defended against your invasion because you created a situation where our duty to uphold the sovereignty of a vassal of the Empire overruled our previously cautious stance. Our troops were placed on standby in case they were in dire need. They now remain on standby to support Lord Arrach Sarum in his efforts and security should they be needed.

Foreign Minmatar involvement in this situation is an unnecessary and destructive complication that can do absolutely no good. The only legitimate Minmatar ethnic authority with any right to speak or act here is the Mandate, along with their own lieges the Ardishapur Family. Indeed, I rather hope they do speak in response to some of the more colorful accusations hurled their way. I am sure they would also similarly denounce your meddling, which has done nothing but weaken their position.

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**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/19 "2018-11-27T19:56:35Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> I am also pretty sure he won’t be the only one, then.

Seems like an appropriate time to quote an ancient swordsman - “Baby, you ain’t kiddin’”

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**Author:** ![Armast\_Darkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armast_darkar/32/173723_2.png) [@Armast\_Darkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armast_Darkar)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/to-the-kahah-free-army-and-to-all-our-brothers-and-sisters-in-darkness/123241/20 "2018-11-27T20:05:53Z")

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The straws you grasp at remind me of the plantations of the Mandate. You say that foreign intervention and my own efforts have weakened the Ammatar Mandate and House Ardishapur and yet these fresh sanctions levied by the Federation and Republic make the Khanid Kingdom economically vulnerable. I didn’t see the section that dealt specifically with the Mandate or Lord Arim’s domain. Or perhaps reality is difficult for you to grasp as well?

Your words lack merit from the perspective of anyone who truly walks the righteous path and your actions are in defiance to basic human decency.

And lastly, I have received no condemnation from the Consulate Governor nor from House Ardishapur. Pass your own judgments as you will, but do not think you can speak for true authorities.

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