# Today I decided not to play **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 31, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064 "2025-10-31T01:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/304 "2025-11-15T17:11:45Z")
> [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](#): > > It’s wild that the entire ship class built for cheap, fast travel is basically unviable. Something like 6000 shuttles are sold in Jita daily. What are people doing with all these “unviable” ships? Why are they buying them? Do you know what the word “unviable” means, or did you just think it sounded like an authoritatively persuasive word to use? Shuttles perform their role of “cheap, fast travel” extremely well, provided you engage your brain even a little bit and bother to fly the ship. Autopilot is always at your own risk. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/306 "2025-11-16T00:11:06Z")
I am not sure how other people are using shuttles. But when I fly one. In general it is in the system I am living in. If I have to jump anywhere for whatever reason in a shuttle. It’s hold is empty and I do not have any high end implants. Nothing that would tempt anyone to really waste ammo on the shuttle that I am flying. But shuttles get used and blown up everyday. Like everything else. shrugs ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/307 "2025-11-16T06:18:41Z")
> [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](#): > > when a game actively punishes you for trying to chill, relax, or explore casually, that’s a game design problem—not a player problem. It’s a fundamental property of the universe, which makes it our problem. I value consistency over change, yet consistency of character and lore is intrinsic to the ability to change and our ability comprehend the cause of that change. Please don’t pith the heart out of what makes this place unique. New Eden promises to remain whether I participate or not, but life is defined by death just as a construction is by destruction. Taking a break now-and-then is probably healthy, it’s wonderful that we have something to return to at all. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/308 "2025-11-16T06:33:27Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Frostpacker is a **misogynist** Well even with the name calling & false labels we still logged in to play today. ---
**Author:** ![Denyial](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/denyial/32/426393_2.png) [@Denyial](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Denyial)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/309 "2025-11-16T21:52:17Z")
Looks like the Farmers have increased character manufacturing. Eves fake numbers are up over to 30k online………seems like someone’s maybe trying to inflate eves numbers to facilitate a sale of eve-online. today when i logged in 90% of all characters were approxiamtely 3 months old, not new players, just characters being farmed, because none of these fools even talk in local…….which is something i did and still do given mumble and discord have Idiots galore on them spewing pathetic garbage in the form of trolling thankfully the 5 years i wasted on this crap are coming to a head, zero content and being forced into playing in HS because loser gangs all controll LS and NS I’m grateful for eves constant crappy updates that have now restricted me to playing only one account together with the constant mysterious magic lag and farmers sucking up all the content i no longer feel the need to buy anything the EVE store sells also saving me upwards now of $200 per month at a time. i never came to eve with the intent of being a dick it’s just turned out that’s another by-product of the Eve experience. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/310 "2025-11-16T22:21:38Z")
> [@Denyial](#): > > Idiots galore on them spewing pathetic garbage You sure moan alot. Have you considered doing something fun like parachuting without a parachute? ![200](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/e/7/de7a150497e502bdf4eacfda39ecc809fe312421.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/311 "2025-11-16T23:31:04Z")
Scratches head. So you are saying that a game turned you into a dick? OOOOKAY! From the sounds of things you are burned out. Taking some time off from the game and touch the grass might be in order. Just saying… ---
**Author:** ![Srima\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srima_darkstar/32/374461_2.png) [@Srima\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srima_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/312 "2025-11-16T23:51:51Z")
> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#): > > So you are saying that a game turned you into a dick? I am sure I was a total asshat before I got here. This game turned me into a complete dillhole. Other games made me a bung wipe and jagweed. So I don’t know, if I will ever make it to dick level status. Good luck with that! ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/313 "2025-11-16T23:59:42Z")
I am just trying to get it straight in my head here and correct me if I am wrong.. You allow games to influence how you mentally handle playing a game? That this game Eve online turned you into “a complete dillhole”. A game. Did that you.. 😖 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/314 "2025-11-17T00:00:38Z")
> [@Srima\_Darkstar](#): > > I was a total So let me get this straight - you are annoying , contemptable, incompetant, foolish. obnoxious, douchebagh. In other words , you fly haulers. ---
**Author:** ![Srima\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srima_darkstar/32/374461_2.png) [@Srima\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srima_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/315 "2025-11-17T00:03:40Z")
@Aallin_Gicquet and @Zaera_Keena well that is what a lot of players call me in those games. I pop someone in PVP and they reply what a (insert name here) !! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/316 "2025-11-17T00:10:59Z")
Oh I see, they were giving you compliments on your PvP prowess. How nice of them. ---
**Author:** ![Srima\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srima_darkstar/32/374461_2.png) [@Srima\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srima_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/317 "2025-11-17T00:20:53Z")
You should hear what my team calls me when I do this… ![topdog](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/b/0/2b0596db35214f66dd56c9a670fb144b07e422a7.jpeg) Note my kills in that match. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/318 "2025-11-17T01:12:48Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > it’s wonderful that we have something to return to at all. Do we? Asking for a friend. ---
**Author:** ![Tesaala\_Isimazu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tesaala_isimazu/32/479718_2.png) [@Tesaala\_Isimazu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tesaala_Isimazu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/319 "2025-11-17T01:40:56Z")
Let me see if I get you, either players are silent and thus ‘fake’ or they are ‘spewing pathetic garbage’ while talking. It’s hard to see how anyone could satisfy you with those views on your fellow players in game. I will say though that I get why you are so angry if you used to spend around 200 $ / month on the game. That is a substantial amount even for something one likes and since you seem to detest everything about this game I totally get why you seem so bitter. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/320 "2025-11-17T01:55:50Z")
I have been called a Filthy Arms Merchant by a salty poster. Who was arguing that how you play the game is a reflection of who you are in RL. Amusing. For a player that is a little over a year and half in this game. I am kinda proud of being called a filthy arms merchant. But that does not make either of us Aholes, dilhole, a dick, or anything really. When someone has lost and iis having a moment of anger. Two things to keep in mind. 1.) it is a game and 2.) refer to 1. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/321 "2025-11-17T05:28:19Z")
well … I do fear for the heath of the developers since the military medical intervention. The demographic character of Iceland is bound to change. > **[Statistics Iceland: Iceland’s population was 389,444 at the beginning of 2025](https://www.statice.is/publications/news-archive/inhabitants/the-population-on-1-january-2025/)** > > According to a new estimate by Statistics Iceland, the population in Iceland on 1 January 2025 was 389,444 and the population had increased by 5,718 from 1 January 2024, or by 1.5%. A total of 199,622 males, 189,623 females and 199 non-binary/other... but # **Chumbawamba - Tubthumping (Lyrics)** [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/2/c/62c1865f5cd748acf9e7e392edbe37a2a89d6630.jpeg "Chumbawamba - Tubthumping (Lyrics)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRQMxBW0cOo) - change is the only constant - enjoy what you’ve got while you have it - friends don’t ask friends silly questions (expecting a serious answer) ---
**Author:** ![Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoutin_on_empty/32/479066_2.png) [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoutin_On_Empty)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/322 "2025-11-17T06:05:33Z")
Consistency is great, but that reply dodges the actual issue. No one is asking to ‘pith the heart out of New Eden’ or erase risk, death, or the harshness that makes EVE unique. I’m pointing out that some systems haven’t aged well, and pretending they’re a ‘fundamental property of the universe’ doesn’t magically make them good game design. EVE’s identity isn’t threatened by fixing outdated mechanics like disposable ganking fits, shuttles dying to boredom-thrashers, or travel being artificially padded with tedium. Risk is part of EVE. Pointless frustration isn’t. Lore doesn’t get broken if shuttles stop being free killmails. Lore doesn’t get broken if travel becomes less of a chore. Lore doesn’t get broken if crime and punishment both work instead of just one. Wanting the game to evolve in the areas that drive players away isn’t an attack on EVE’s soul—it’s literally what keeps the universe alive. ‘Consistency’ without improvement is just stagnation with a poetic coat of paint. New Eden will outlast all of us, sure. But whether players want to be in it depends on CCP fixing the parts that no longer make sense. That’s not heresy—that’s caring enough to want it to be better ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/323 "2025-11-17T06:22:55Z")
sure, there is plenty to fix EverMore agents won’t give me a mission past certain level despite having more than enough standing. [Yes I fly haulers @Zaera_Keena 😛] Are these reasons not to play anyway? idk, maybe, but why this hill when there are workarounds and opportunities to explore - even exploit. If CCP feels threatened by your imaginative solutions to their unexpected features they will soon tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoutin_on_empty/32/479066_2.png) [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoutin_On_Empty)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/324 "2025-11-17T06:31:15Z")
Yeah, there’s definitely a lot that could use fixing, and the EverMore agents are a perfect example of weird, inconsistent progression. Stuff like that stacks up over time. But I don’t think it has to be a reason to quit. EVE has always been this strange mix of broken systems and creative players finding ways around them. Half the fun is using the tools we do have to carve out something that works — until CCP notices and decides it was “unintended.” So yeah, I get the frustration, but there’s still plenty to dig into if one is willing to poke around the rough edges. @Snowflake_Tem [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064.md?page=17)